MK11 SHANG TSUNG Discussion

[1man3letters]

The new ability to delay the amp of slide is really helping the kb be waaay more consistent for me. thanks nrs

 

[Mahjunia]

Since the timing for the combos of the twitter videos posted over here are tight as fck... here's some consistency combos I've been testing. If someone knows better dmg combos easy / medium execution + consistency over all, say it pls! I'm learning shang from 0.

midscreen 1 bar:
f24-db1 AMP, j1, b11-db1 / bf2 / bf4 (242/ 245 / 250 dmg)
114-db1 AMP, j1, b11-db1 (259 dmg)
114-db1 AMP, dash, 3u2-db1 (262 dmg)
f24-db4 AMP, 3u2-db1 (247 dmg)

corner 1 bar:

f242, 11, 114-db1 AMP, j2, dash, 4 db1 (317.92 dmg)
f24 / 114 / 4 / 3u2 - db1 AMP, j2, 114-db1 (271.98 / 285.76 / 294.71 / 310.98 dmg)
j3, 11, 114-db1 AMP, dash, 4-db1 (334.61 dmg)

 

[sprintz98]

Since the timing for the combos of the twitter videos posted over here are tight as fck... here's some consistency combos I've been testing. If someone knows better dmg combos easy / medium execution + consistency over all, say it pls! I'm learning shang from 0.

midscreen 1 bar:
f24-db1 AMP, j1, b11-db1 / bf2 / bf4 (242/ 245 / 250 dmg)
114-db1 AMP, j1, b11-db1 (259 dmg)
114-db1 AMP, dash, 3u2-db1 (262 dmg)
f24-db4 AMP, 3u2-db1 (247 dmg)

corner 1 bar:

f242, 11, 114-db1 AMP, j2, dash, 4 db1 (317.92 dmg)
f24 / 114 / 4 / 3u2 - db1 AMP, j2, 114-db1 (271.98 / 285.76 / 294.71 / 310.98 dmg)
j3, 11, 114-db1 AMP, dash, 4-db1 (334.61 dmg)

For the corner combos, you get the most damage if you end in 4 bf1

 

[Cobainevermind87]

So it was my understanding that if you morphed into your opponent, your throws did 12 percent instead of 14. Am I incorrect? Playing Shang's 3rd variation at the moment, which has no soul steal, yet every throw I land does 12 instead of 14.

Am I too drunk or is there an issue here?

 

[Marinjuana]

So it was my understanding that if you morphed into your opponent, your throws did 12 percent instead of 14. Am I incorrect? Playing Shang's 3rd variation at the moment, which has no soul steal, yet every throw I land does 12 instead of 14.

Am I too drunk or is there an issue here?

Nah Shang Tsung's forward throw does 12% because it heals him for 2% and when you morph, your throws will do 16.8% because of the 20% damage buff. The drinking may be in play here!

 

[Cobainevermind87]

Nah Shang Tsung's forward throw does 12% because it heals him for 2% and when you morph, your throws will do 16.8% because of the 20% damage buff. The drinking may be in play here!

Ah I see. New to Shang, playing him since the ninja variation is tourney legal now, Ermac main from mkx. Cheers dude, appreciate the fast response

 

[legion666]

Since the timing for the combos of the twitter videos posted over here are tight as fck... here's some consistency combos I've been testing. If someone knows better dmg combos easy / medium execution + consistency over all, say it pls! I'm learning shang from 0.

midscreen 1 bar:
f24-db1 AMP, j1, b11-db1 / bf2 / bf4 (242/ 245 / 250 dmg)
114-db1 AMP, j1, b11-db1 (259 dmg)
114-db1 AMP, dash, 3u2-db1 (262 dmg)
f24-db4 AMP, 3u2-db1 (247 dmg)

corner 1 bar:

f242, 11, 114-db1 AMP, j2, dash, 4 db1 (317.92 dmg)
f24 / 114 / 4 / 3u2 - db1 AMP, j2, 114-db1 (271.98 / 285.76 / 294.71 / 310.98 dmg)
j3, 11, 114-db1 AMP, dash, 4-db1 (334.61 dmg)

Check all of this on female kharakters. Some of them definitely don’t work on small hitboxes.

 

[legion666]

For the corner combos, you get the most damage if you end in 4 bf1

Actually you get the most damage by ending in d2, after the force lift it is easy to space it so that the opponent stays in the corner.

 

[Invincible Salads]

i still prefer warlock but soul eater just won me a set against a sonya in ranked, suck it you ring tossing coin flippin bitch!

 

[Pterodactyl]

I’m not set in which I think it’s better yet, but I’m switching to the new variations because it so much god damn fun.

Playing so many matches as Warlock, felt like my brain was gonna melt out of my ear, felt like I had way less ability to vary things up and way less utility in the ways i’d want.

Also mighty morphin Shang and the ninja rangers has some of the coolest looking combos in the game.

 

[Mahjunia]

Check all of this on female kharakters. Some of them definitely don’t work on small hitboxes.

I'm checking them right now and they all seem to work on females.

 

[legion666]

I'm checking them right now and they all seem to work on females.

Oh, right, you are using j1. Yeah, that works but doesn’t do much damage. I was thinking combos of 114 and J3. I usually do 114xxdb1 amp, j2,3xxdb1 but it is super tight on some females. The 114xxdb1 Amp, dash xx 1,dash xx d2 is actually very practical on all kharacters and does about the same damage.
For all grounded starters like f24, 3u2, 4, 21 going into db1 amp, j2,3xxdb1 is east and does a bit more than the combos you have.
For Soul Eater it makes sense to go for max damage with 2 bars and the easy optimal damage is
f24/b3u4/4/3/21 xx db4 amp, 3u2 xx db1 amp, dash xx d2 - it does 362-385 depending on the starter

In corner it isn’t hard to get this combo: f242/J3, 11,11,114 xx db1 amp, d2. I think it does over 340 off f242 starter and even more off J3.
And for grounded starters like f24 or 3u2 it isn’t hard to get Starter xx db1 amp, J3,114xxdb1.
For 114 starter going into db1 amp J3 114xxdb1 works but it is tight so it is practical to go for j2 just like you have said.

 

[legion666]

Waaaait, boys!!! Can anyone confirm that?!?? I have just been informed that we lost the Shake KB. Was I lied to, or was it really changed?!??

 

[TYRANNICAL]

Shake KB is still there.

 

[legion666]

Shake KB is still there.

Thank God!!! You checked the competitive variation, right?)

 

[TYRANNICAL]

Thank God!!! You checked the competitive variation, right?)

Yeah, I have it set as my second variation for Shang.

 

[AK Harold]

How are v3 tools in the neutral overall?

 

[AK Harold]

Another quick question, do the Ninja moves unlock his throw kb?

 

[Mahjunia]

Oh, right, you are using j1. Yeah, that works but doesn’t do much damage. I was thinking combos of 114 and J3. I usually do 114xxdb1 amp, j2,3xxdb1 but it is super tight on some females. The 114xxdb1 Amp, dash xx 1,dash xx d2 is actually very practical on all kharacters and does about the same damage.
For all grounded starters like f24, 3u2, 4, 21 going into db1 amp, j2,3xxdb1 is east and does a bit more than the combos you have.
For Soul Eater it makes sense to go for max damage with 2 bars and the easy optimal damage is
f24/b3u4/4/3/21 xx db4 amp, 3u2 xx db1 amp, dash xx d2 - it does 362-385 depending on the starter

In corner it isn’t hard to get this combo: f242/J3, 11,11,114 xx db1 amp, d2. I think it does over 340 off f242 starter and even more off J3.
And for grounded starters like f24 or 3u2 it isn’t hard to get Starter xx db1 amp, J3,114xxdb1.
For 114 starter going into db1 amp J3 114xxdb1 works but it is tight so it is practical to go for j2 just like you have said.

Thanks for your inputs, gonna try them asap!

I'm very excited for this variation since it seems fun to play gamewise and I've changed my mindset since I'm a casual ranked player so I just wanna have fun... with Raiden I've got to Demi god and Grand master the rest of the seasons because of no time. I feel Shang will provide me tools and the fun that Raiden never did.

 

[STB Sgt Reed]

My personal combo that I do for v3 shang is:

F24/b3u4/b11/11 into db4 amp s1 b11 db1 amp s3 (or s2 if I can't hit slide after) bf4

 

[Mahjunia]

My personal combo that I do for v3 shang is:

F24/b3u4/b11/11 into db4 amp s1 b11 db1 amp s3 (or s2 if I can't hit slide after) bf4

I think after db4 amp you can do 11, b11 for sure but dunno if db1 will connect gonna test it later.

 

[ABACABB]

Yo just recently picked up shang and hes great . Not talking about third var or spellmaster .

Morph is great move , I have much success catching ppl with it jumping or whatever. But my question is . What you do when ur morphed into char u dont know shit about ?

 

[Agilaz]

Yo just recently picked up shang and hes great . Not talking about third var or spellmaster .

Morph is great move , I have much success catching ppl with it jumping or whatever. But my question is . What you do when ur morphed into char u dont know shit about ?

Throw.

Ideally though, you'd take every character into the lab for half an hour to learn a simple BnB, or at the very least their specials.

 

[Agilaz]

Another quick question, do the Ninja moves unlock his throw kb?

Nope. Shame too, as technically he does morph back into himself

 

[Johnny Based Cage]

Anyone know if there are still ways to consistently combo into slide kb? I remember seeing a thread on that a while ago and I thought it was a pretty sick find.