The World Has No More Room For Monsters: Swamp Thing General Discussion

[Skedar70]

Are you mashing trait? Pressing trait again after activating it will get it to stop spreading, pressing trait a third time will deactivate trait.

Nope I just press the button once.

 

[Percimon]

MB-version of db3 has armor while active trait too:

BUT: armor activates only if clone touches opponent

 

[freerf245]

MB-version of db3 has armor while active trait too:

BUT: armor activates only if clone touches opponent

Wow had no idea. Good shit.

 

[CrazyFingers]

Should still have armor as a base and why didn't NRS mention this on stream?

 

[sranc]

Should still have armor as a base and why didn't NRS mention this on stream?

Apparently Lord Paulo is checking your status updates

 

[CrazyFingers]

Apparently Lord Paulo is checking your status updates

apparently. them ninja hot fixes?

 

[Skedar70]

Whaaaat? Maybe he had this all along and we just didn't know. Cool I will test to see how effective it is. Ohhh and it spreads the garden even more, great.

 

[CrazyFingers]

It's super inconsistent and basically garbage.

 

[Skedar70]

It's super inconsistent and basically garbage.

Noooooo... really?

 

[CrazyFingers]

Noooooo... really?

If I cant even consistently get it to work in training mode, that's a garbage tool.

 

[D. R.]

In other news regarding trait for those not in the know, charging a MB f3 or b3 while the opponent is stuck in trait will cause trait to do 50% more damage for each tick they take while ST is holding the MB.

Top tier tactics.

 

[Percimon]

In other news regarding trait for those not in the know, charging a MB f3 or b3 while the opponent is stuck in trait will cause trait to do 50% more damage for each tick they take while ST is holding the MB.

Top tier tactics.

LOL! Just tested it and it's really so!

12th level intellect tactic guys

 

[D. R.]

LOL! Just tested it and it's really so!

12th level intellect tactic guys

I figured more people knew about this. Lol Any character that can put dot damage on the map benefits from this such as Ivy, Fate, and Captain Cold.

This is also why Red Hood's hard to blockables in the corner are so busted. His low mine gets the 50% damage buff along with the MB f3 making his combos do stupid damage. If only Swamp Thing did stupid damage.

 

[CrazyFingers]

I figured more people knew about this. Lol Any character that can put dot damage on the map benefits from this such as Ivy, Fate, and Captain Cold.

This is also why Red Hood's hard to blockables in the corner are so busted. His low mine gets the 50% damage buff along with the MB f3 making his combos do stupid damage. If only Swamp Thing did stupid damage.

#AverageDamageUnlessYouWannaThrowAwayAllYourHitAdvantageInThatCaseYouCanGetOnlySlightlyAboveAverageAndLoseAllYourPressureBoys

 

[CrazyFingers]

So this happened https://twitter.com/CrzyFingers/status/910512923931496448

 

[D. R.]

So this happened https://twitter.com/CrzyFingers/status/910512923931496448

You have armor upon collision like on the frame if you GT in trait. Again, it's super inconsistent.

 

[CrazyFingers]

You have armor upon collision like on the frame if you GT in trait. Again, it's super inconsistent.

Yea I labbed it immediately after. Thought we actually had a really strong setplay tool but I guess not.

 

[Percimon]

It was in patch notes:

• Swamp Thing - If Swamp Thing has Abigail's Garden character power active, hitting an opponent with Vine Grab or Green Thumb causes Swamp Thing to gain armor for a short duration

No comments

 

[thlityoursloat]

Does the sword have a smaller hitbox than the club? I used to be able to consistently link F233 F2 against big body characters like Darkseid, but with the sword it feels jankier.

 

[EntropicByDesign]

Joey is kinda fun.... But man.. scrolling down his combo/move lists and looking at the startup frames is just.. well its very sad, lol. And no, before someone yells at me, Im not switching mains or anything. Just had some time to dork about and spent it fiddling with Swampthing some.. He seems like he has a fun neutral, minus the glacial startup of his shit.

 

[CrazyFingers]

Background Bounce Stuff! I'm gonna post a more in depth video/thread tomorrow but here's tech to look at.

https://twitter.com/CrzyFingers/status/927407865136058368

https://twitter.com/CrzyFingers/status/927400996443246592

https://twitter.com/CrzyFingers/status/927392489107066881

https://twitter.com/CrzyFingers/status/927390812685692929

 

[GetEmStretch]

Nice find @CrazyFingers . I'm late to the party (just picked the game back up) and been playing ST exclusively. Activating Abigail's garden mid combo, then meterburn rolling leaves trait on both sides of the opponent preventing jumping/back-forward dashing.

Really useful against jump happy characters like Batman, Wonder Woman, Black Adam, Superman/Supergirl (if you can get close enough). Teleport characters still get out of this for free, but are unsafe (Supergirl/Black Manta) & full combo punishable. Depending on if the opponent has a forward advancing string, as ST you can generally hit standing 3 and keep them from advancing forward. It's a 2 hitting (-1 on block) button which builds much needed meter. For those trying to work their way backwards, ST can back dash to keep them within it & threaten with vine grab. Or apply pressure to build more meter/combo.

He's a fun character, but I'll say playing his made my reaction time & blocking a lot better online.

 

[D. R.]

The buffs NRS showcased for Swamp Thing so far look incredible:

• Swamp Thing can hold his bf3 to go nearly fullscreen but it's punishable.
• When trait is active, s3 and db2 have FULL ARMOR
• Log kick is SAFE

Corner meta is going to change slightly to accommodate ST needing to be in trait now however having free armor is sick. Along with some potential frame data changes coming in the patch notes, he seems "viable."

#shittiernomore

 

[D. R.]

I listened to the stream again in regards to ST. I hate theory fighting but going off 16 Bit verbiage of how he explained ST trait buffs last time compared to this time, it's basically the same. Bear with me here. Last patch, Swamp Thing gained armor on certain moves on trade as long as trait was active. He didn't have to stand in it for it to proc. 16 Bit used basically the same exact words to describe the new buffs, i.e. "when trait is active." If I'm reading into this right then as long as trait is active rather ST is standing in it or not, he has access to an armored s3 or db2.

That is seriously fucking nuts. What a hell of a buff.

 

[16 Bit]

Nah he has to be standing in it for d,b+2 and standing tree armor.