Broski, for one: B3 x tele leaves Raiden at MASSIVE disadvantage.
She needs it
Anything that is 10 or less cancel advantage will have the opponent recover before you teleport behind them so the 5 or 7 frame turn around rule will apply. Anything higher than that and there is no penalty for turning around unless you you input your attack on the first frame you recover, because then it will take an extra 5 frames.
I should have clarified. I do not mean directly tele after B3. Do B3, opponent thinks he can interrupt, then teleport on reaction to at least avoid the interruption and either get a punish or mount your own offense. Besides it isn't easy to interrupt these strings. Risk-reward is not worth it for an opponent.
I'm not saying he's ass, I'm saying he's not top tier and is the most overrated character in the game.If having a 1f special is such a big deal then why isn't CSZ better than Raiden? His normals are far superior and they both have 1f specials.
I think CSZ's parry has a 10 frame start-up (at least that's what Altaire said) and it is much more punishable than the teleport. It is also vulnerable to low attacks and doesn't have nearly as many mind games attached to it. Raiden can't be zoned, he can escape rushdown and he can turtle unlike any character. Plus his only bad match is CSZ and it isn't unwinnable. You cannot say the same for CSZ.
Aww hell NAW!! You DID NOT just say that Raiden has no bad match-ups.
Those are all 5-5's essentially
Or are they...?
You dare question me, mortal?
You answer me, some other being?
Characters like that can give him problems, but that doesn't necessarily make them bad matchups. You would think Sonya is a bad matchup but she's really not, it's even. I can attest to this after playing the likes of Morty's Sonya, Marvaz' Cage, and Tyrant's Jax. At final round I simply didn't adjust to your Sonya playstyle fast enough.
lol ok batman.
Raiden is upper Mid Tier. Been going over this with Maxter Cd and CD Jr. This is what i've come up with and I accept the sad reality.
People come up with these assumptions because people don't play Raiden to his max potential.
I understand you are a great player and you know Raiden inside and out but MAxter has a fantastic Raiden as well and he didn't even use him because he thinks he's not that good. Raiden has always been my main but i've decided to learn 3 more characters and use 4. This may sound weird but until you've played against those guys at VSM a lot, it's hard to see. I always thought raiden was top but after they nerfed his teleport i think he's out of the top ten now. Have you ever played Maxter's cage or Curbo's cage? It's RETARDED. Honestly I think that match is 7 - 3 cage and sonya is a 6 - 4. CSZ is a 6 - 4 as well.
Well in that case Maxter and I are at a disagreement. Raiden is a great character, and I feel he just doesn't want to push him beyond. Saying Raiden is out of the top 10 is just laughable. I haven't had the pleasure of playing against Maxter or Curbo's cage but cage doesn't really scare me. Cage = 5-5, Sonya a possible 5.5/4.5 in Sonya's favor but even for the most part. CSZ is 5-5.
