B W1zZ
Warrior
I'm not on XBL anymore.CURBOLICOUS please play against B W1zz for me so i don't feel like i'm completely crazy here. lol
I'm not on XBL anymore.CURBOLICOUS please play against B W1zz for me so i don't feel like i'm completely crazy here. lol
Even so, online matches aren't going to prove anything.@CURBOLICOUS has ps3 too
Alright but i played him offline. As did perfect legend and justin wong. All of us used Raiden and all of us got bodied. Now I might not be as good as you or PL but there fact that pl and J wong got bodied was eye opening. Curbo makes that match look literally impossible. J wong got flawlessed 3 times.Even so, online matches aren't going to prove anything.
Well for one Jwong doesn't play MK that much, and I don't really view PL as a complete Raiden.Alright but i played him offline. As did perfect legend and justin wong. All of us used Raiden and all of us got bodied. Now I might not be as good as you or PL but there fact that pl and J wong got bodied was eye opening. Curbo makes that match look literally impossible. J wong got flawlessed 3 times.
CSZ's parry 10 frames?I think CSZ's parry has a 10 frame start-up (at least that's what Altaire said) and it is much more punishable than the teleport. It is also vulnerable to low attacks and doesn't have nearly as many mind games attached to it. Raiden can't be zoned, he can escape rushdown and he can turtle unlike any character. Plus his only bad match is CSZ and it isn't unwinnable. You cannot say the same for CSZ.
After MLG and going to VSM a lot and going over different match ups with the CD bros my new Tier list is something like this..
Kabal
Cage
Kenshi
Sonya
Smoke
Kitana
Freddy
Jax
Sektor
Mileena
Cyrax
Kung Lao
Raiden
Reptile
Shang Tsung
Quan Chi
Liu Kang
Ermac
Cyber Sub
Kano
Noob Saibot
Nightwolf
Sub Zero
Baraka
Scorpion
Stryker
Sindel
Skarlet
Rain
Sheeva
Jade
After MLG and going to VSM a lot and going over different match ups with the CD bros my new Tier list is something like this..
Kabal
Cage
Kenshi
Sonya
Smoke
Kitana
Freddy
Jax
Sektor
Mileena
Cyrax
Kung Lao
Raiden
Reptile
Shang Tsung
Quan Chi
Liu Kang
Ermac
Cyber Sub
Kano
Noob Saibot
Nightwolf
Sub Zero
Baraka
Scorpion
Stryker
Sindel
Skarlet
Rain
Sheeva
Jade
Bw1zz is completely crazy obviously he has never played a good cage.CURBOLICOUS please play against B W1zz for me so i don't feel like i'm completely crazy here. lol
If your not scared of that matchup then I have no clue who you play. Raiden is prolly bottom 15. His strings are slow, you can armor and with certain characters use specials to interrupt his normals. Raiden has no way of getting out except his teleport which isn't that great. Theres no way you can tell me Johnny Cage goes 5-5 with raiden.Well in that case Maxter and I are at a disagreement. Raiden is a great character, and I feel he just doesn't want to push him beyond. Saying Raiden is out of the top 10 is just laughable. I haven't had the pleasure of playing against Maxter or Curbo's cage but cage doesn't really scare me. Cage = 5-5, Sonya a possible 5.5/4.5 in Sonya's favor but even for the most part. CSZ is 5-5.
Raiden bottom 15? Really? And you call me crazy. 121 has a 9 frame startup which really isn't a slow string. He has uninterruptible options instead of using B312 or 334, and his B3 has great range. He can en shocker out of cages frame traps for 31%. Raiden goes 5-5 with Cage, period. Cage has problems when Raiden has the life lead. You obviously haven't played a good Raiden offline with cage, or at least one that knows the matchup.If your not scared of that matchup then I have no clue who you play. Raiden is prolly bottom 15. His strings are slow, you can armor and with certain characters use specials to interrupt his normals. Raiden has no way of getting out except his teleport which isn't that great. Theres no way you can tell me Johnny Cage goes 5-5 with raiden.
I liked your comment on the podcast, about Kenshi Lao being an interesting idea for a team. That's actually my team. Kenshi primary, then Lao and Kitana. I feel I'm covered.Tier list is pointless. My question to you is, what character are you playing?
You use Cage against Raiden. Cage does very well vs Raiden. Try using a zoning character. You'll find out how annoying the teleport really is. I do think Raiden is top ten. You have to keep in mind that not every character can pressure Raiden to the extent that Cage can.If your not scared of that matchup then I have no clue who you play. Raiden is prolly bottom 15. His strings are slow, you can armor and with certain characters use specials to interrupt his normals. Raiden has no way of getting out except his teleport which isn't that great. Theres no way you can tell me Johnny Cage goes 5-5 with raiden.
The fact that people are even questioning Raiden being top 10 is a joke in my opinion. I still think he's top 5.You use Cage against Raiden. Cage does very well vs Raiden. Try using a zoning character. You'll find out how annoying the teleport really is. I do think Raiden is top ten. You have to keep in mind that not every character can pressure Raiden to the extent that Cage can.
he is the best rush down character in this game by far. This game has turned into a rush down game. So therefore he's a top character.Cage.. number 2 in the tier list. Jesus, the way people's opinions sway after tournaments is absolutely astounding.
Raiden, Cage, Kenshi, Jax. That's the team i'm working on and going to dedicate my MK9 time to.Tier list is pointless. My question to you is, what character are you playing?
That is true but raiden can't really do anything against people who turtle him. Raiden just seems like he has so many limited options.You use Cage against Raiden. Cage does very well vs Raiden. Try using a zoning character. You'll find out how annoying the teleport really is. I do think Raiden is top ten. You have to keep in mind that not every character can pressure Raiden to the extent that Cage can.
It's not a joke man I'm not trying to diss your character when I say this but raiden is soooo limited with everything his teleport and his other strings won't give him the win. I know my raiden matchup very well and I will not lose to any raiden, you can take my word for it. If both of us go to the next MLG I'll show you why raiden gets murdered by cage. I dare you do your ex shocker or teleport in between my pressures, gaurentee you will have second thoughts of using them.The fact that people are even questioning Raiden being top 10 is a joke in my opinion. I still think he's top 5.
I guarantee I'll be unlike any other Raiden you've played. I'm hoping I do go to the next MLG and I look forward to playing you. If you think your going to auto correct F3 me all day you're sorely mistaken.It's not a joke man I'm not trying to diss your character when I say this but raiden is soooo limited with everything his teleport and his other strings won't give him the win. I know my raiden matchup very well and I will not lose to any raiden, you can take my word for it. If both of us go to the next MLG I'll show you why raiden gets murdered by cage. I dare you do your ex shocker or teleport in between my pressures, gaurentee you will have second thoughts of using them.