MKXL Hotfix Notes 3-8-2016

[CAM THE SAGE]

There's no need for armor when EX phase does the job if you use it, knowing you might get blown up. Like any other wakeup attack. Of course if the opponent spaces themselves so they're still cornering you, it's a waste. That is no different from an opponent blocking a wakeup. Also, by spacing themselves out to keep you in the corner, their options on your wakeup are limited to things that will reach outside of certain characters who cut off EX phase in the corner with specific setups. EX phase also handles armor breaking much better than a majority of armor attacks in the game by simply being invincible. Hell, by being invincible, he gets to escape some potentially round ending pressure because he can't be damaged.

Smoke legit doesn't have a need for armor. Not when EX phase exists.

Yea but u can use it on wake up just to get grabbed out and thrown right back into the corner

 

[Classic Malt]

It's still shit now

I beg to differ. Regular up rock maybe not as good as pre patch but it now combos again. Plus by the looks of it ex up rock has now hard to block 50/50s in the corner (b3 ex db3, ex db3 b3).

Thanks to Paulo and NRS for fixing it.

 

[THTB]

Yea but u can use it on wake up just to get grabbed out and thrown right back into the corner

And? You can tech, jump out, etc. Unless they do an attack that recovers very fast, they have to read.

Using and countering EX phase is reads, just like any other wakeup in the game.

 

[ragnar0kz28]

Does anyone know the new advantage on TriBorgs 1112? This is being overlooked. HUGE change for CSZ in the corner if it's significantly reduced. Or the F2 change?



How much lower is it? Can you not land them mid to far screen, see it, and then teleport combo? What about up close when you catch someone pressuring, can you react and punish?



You mean if they're fixing Bo Rai Cho 75% literally unblockable setups or Bo's EX Fart traps that remove all your options into combo for him or Cyrax 1f looping meterless links? If that's what you meant good question.

Lots of things need to get fixed about dlcs, they did a great job re balancing the roster, besides Tanya that got over nerfed.

 

[supernumian]

I'm new to frame data and stuff like that.
Somebody can explain me how the 1112 frame adjust means for Triborg?
Thanks.

 

[WakeUp DP]

Doesnt have to be +"I can run full screen full combo", but hopefully they atleast give sektor enough time to think about what he is going to do. atm you have to make a read and risk giving up momentum or make an unsafe call like predicting the rocket will land and doing a tp right after. PS, I never really used the 1112 so thats a whatever thing.

Subz has the same tools with ice ball. He gets hit, gets back up, runs, full combo punishes and puts you in the corner and have fun in it.

 

[dennycascade]

how did it not? what does he have now that is supposed to scare his opponents?

no reason to respect up missiles, they do shit damage and now you can't hit confirm off of them. his telepunch seems to have tracking issues, it's no longer the jump punisher it used to be in 9, flamethrowers are unsafe, straight missiles are highs, most of his strings either have gaps or are unsafe..

he no longer has any dirt in a game where pretty much every character has dirt. if this doesn't kill him, what would?

at this point he's "alright" at best. sektor players might as well switch to cyrax since he's pretty much untouched despite being the far more ridiculous character

My god the downplayers on this website.

 

[freerf245]

Sektor's up missiles are fine. No you have to actually confirm instead of throwing them out randomly till your opponent got hit.

 

[Agilaz]

My god the downplayers on this website.

Do you even use Sektor? Do you understand his weaknesses and how they relate to his strengths? My point about Sektor's opponents not needing to fear anything still stands. Every thing Sektor has in terms of normals can either be stuffed or punished or interrupted. Specials are unsafe, except EX Air Dash. Up missile was the one thing that kept people in check, explain to me what's keeping them now from just going ham.

I always gave people like M2Dave shit when I heard them say that NRS favours rushdown and mixups over defensive play - but this pretty much confirms it. He's been out for a week and he's already getting smacked with the nerf hammer. Meanwhile, his more offensively oriented yellow brother - the one that can take half your life without spending meter, off of a 10f advanving normal - has barely been touched.

Yeah, "downplayers" are the problem. Not the fact that NRS balance changes seem to be based on some sort of lottery of doom.

 

[Compbros]

People seem less character specialist and more as-long-as-I-play-a-good-character specialists.

 

[freerf245]

Do you even use Sektor? Do you understand his weaknesses and how they relate to his strengths? My point about Sektor's opponents not needing to fear anything still stands. Every thing Sektor has in terms of normals can either be stuffed or punished or interrupted. Specials are unsafe, except EX Air Dash. Up missile was the one thing that kept people in check, explain to me what's keeping them now from just going ham.

I always gave people like M2Dave shit when I heard them say that NRS favours rushdown and mixups over defensive play - but this pretty much confirms it. He's been out for a week and he's already getting smacked with the nerf hammer. Meanwhile, his more offensively oriented yellow brother - the one that can take half your life without spending meter, off of a 10f advanving normal - has barely been touched.

Yeah, "downplayers" are the problem. Not the fact that NRS balance changes seem to be based on some sort of lottery of doom.

As a zoning tool, I didn't have a problem with it. It was just the fact the you could end any string with it, get D2ed, and still have time to wake up TU for a full combo was stupid. Now it's used as primarily a zoning tool, which I believe is what it is meant for.

 

[Agilaz]

People seem less character specialist and more as-long-as-I-play-a-good-character specialists.

Yeah, a year of playing fucking GORO waiting for my MK9 main to show up makes me a tier whore. Now Sektor has no dirt in a game where almost every other character has dirt . I can't speak for others, but for me this is just a build up of bad decisions by NRS - the bad vanilla roster, Goro's flaws up until now and now the knee-jerk Sektor nerf.

PEOPLE CAN RUN UNDER FUCKING UP MISSILES

 

[THTB]

PEOPLE CAN RUN UNDER FUCKING UP MISSILES

You can aim them in front of you...or did you conveniently forget that?

 

[Agilaz]

You can aim them in front of you...or did you conveniently forget that?

Oh I'm sorry, is ONE guess too much in a game chock full of fucking 50/50s? How terribly inconvenient for you.

 

[Compbros]

Yeah, a year of playing fucking GORO waiting for my MK9 main to show up makes me a tier whore. Now Sektor has no dirt in a game where almost every other character has dirt . I can't speak for others, but for me this is just a build up of bad decisions by NRS - the bad vanilla roster, Goro's flaws up until now and now the knee-jerk Sektor nerf.

PEOPLE CAN RUN UNDER FUCKING UP MISSILES

What makes you think I was talking about Sektor? I was talking about people dropping the game because their character got nerfed and aren't ridiculously good anymore. But I can go to Sektor.

I play Spec Ops, a variation where I have to consciously decide where to put my up rockets. It doesn't track, I can't put it "in front of someone", I make a bad read and I'm eating 30-40. Now my defensive tools have taken a big hit and my pressure as well thanks to Cassie nerfs. But here I am, dealing with it. Did I voice frustrations about my variation getting literally nothing but nerfs despite being the worst variation already? Sure, but I'm reworking things and I'll continue playing it.

Sektor's hitstun was dumb. I traded gunshots with one at full screen and he was able to run in and combo off of up rockets. Dumb. The hitstun was nerfed a little too much but it couldn't stand as was. As far as dirt I can't speak on it, I haven't played enough of the character.

"Bad vanilla roster" is pure opinion and ridiculous since people just got a sloppy ass love letter last game with just about every fan favorite.

 

[THTB]

Oh I'm sorry, is ONE guess too much in a game chock full of fucking 50/50s? How terribly inconvenient for you.

I love how you're acting like being unable to combo upmissiles after going out for a lunch break ruins the character.

That shit wasn't staying lmao. Because of how upmissiles worked, he could throw them out, and if he aimed them in front and got hit anyway, the opponent HAD to recover really fast or else they'd get comboed for it even if he got knocked down. Not even prepatch uprock was that silly.

 

[Invincible Salads]

Bruh come n, you're full of it if you think Sektor is ruined.

i just don't care right now, lately its been one disappointment after the other. Its either the wrong things getting nerfed, or just going way too far for no good reason other than that people really just hate the character *cough* tanya *cough* c'mon nrs, you coulda done a way better job of balancing her.


and as for sektor, he should at least have a hitconfirm off upmissle, not a rediculous amount of hitstun that you could go take a shit , come back and combo. but enough that you can actually get something off of it.

 

[Espio]

I love how you're acting like being unable to combo upmissiles after going out for a lunch break ruins the character.

That shit wasn't staying lmao. Because of how upmissiles worked, he could throw them out, and if he aimed them in front and got hit anyway, the opponent HAD to recover really fast or else they'd get comboed for it even if he got knocked down. Not even prepatch uprock was that silly.

The current mentality of this game is if my opponent has to adapt to my BS, fine. If I have to adapt to game balance, outrageous! Between the Smoke wake up tears and people thinking they should have a lifetime to hit confirm and think that makes sense, I just cannot.

 

[SaltShaker]

The current mentality of this game is if my opponent has to adapt to my BS, fine. If I have to adapt to game balance, outrageous! Between the Smoke wake up tears and people thinking they should have a lifetime to hit confirm and think that makes sense, I just cannot.

I think they over-adjusted UpMissile, but something definitely had to change. It was probably the definition of braindead.


I was playing a match with Sektor on Monday, had my opponent to 20% health left. We traded fireball with UpMissile. I put the controller down and went to the bar, I was running late. When I got back I forgot I was playing earlier that day so I turned the TV back on and did telepunch to combo and win the match.

 

[evolution07]

Folks here act like the world is about to end whenever a change to a character is made.

When they see how "good" something is with a character (missles, rekkas, up rock etc) that gives them tremendous power, their eyes light up like a Christmas tree. When said character becomes "normalized", their brain goes into self destruct mode. It's quite comical but becoming harder and harder each time to read.

That's not to say I don't agree with certain things, but the way some of you act is a bit embarrassing.

 

[Jaku2011]

i just don't care right now, lately its been one disappointment after the other. Its either the wrong things getting nerfed, or just going way too far for no good reason other than that people really just hate the character *cough* tanya *cough* c'mon nrs, you coulda done a way better job of balancing her.


and as for sektor, he should at least have a hitconfirm off upmissle, not a rediculous amount of hitstun that you could go take a shit , come back and combo. but enough that you can actually get something off of it.

The amount of time you had to confirm was ridiculous everyone knew it would be changed you can still Combo on it, what is it +43 now or some such? You're telling me you can't confirm off of +43?! Honestly sorry the move isn't baby mode anymore.

 

[WiseM0nkey]

for real, you guys complaining about up rocket want this game to be a mess

 

[Agilaz]

for real, you guys complaining about up rocket want this game to be a mess

I'm sure Alien's high corner damage & meterless restands are just fine, Sektor's up missile was literally the worst and most broken thing ever.

now if you'll excuse me, i'm gonna go learn those 45%+ meterless cyrax combos because apparently that shit is working as intended. or maybe some 75% bo rai cho corner stuff? yeah, that all sounds fair and balanced and in no way worse than sektor's 100% avoidable up missile

 

[Matador Fiend]

I'm sure Alien's high corner damage & meterless restands are just fine, Sektor's up missile was literally the worst and most broken thing ever.

now if you'll excuse me, i'm gonna go learn those 45%+ meterless cyrax combos because apparently that shit is working as intended. or maybe some 75% bo rai cho corner stuff? yeah, that all sounds fair and balanced and in no way worse than sektor's 100% avoidable up missile

damn man, your amount of butthurt over something being fixed that wasnt working as intended in the first place is just annoying at this point

 

[Levaranoia]

I'm sure Alien's high corner damage & meterless restands are just fine, Sektor's up missile was literally the worst and most broken thing ever.

now if you'll excuse me, i'm gonna go learn those 45%+ meterless cyrax combos because apparently that shit is working as intended. or maybe some 75% bo rai cho corner stuff? yeah, that all sounds fair and balanced and in no way worse than sektor's 100% avoidable up missile

Man, you should stop. Cause you're making yourself sound like a huge bitch.