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Raiden Video: Blowing up the invincible teleport and interrupting strings

I haven't played against VSM except for REO (who I flawlessed at devastation) but I've played GGA members at Final Round and did great against them. You're obviously a random hater that understands nothing about the character, so gtfo with your trolling.
Stop being so cocky, I'm just stating facts. Look at the nobodies up there saying that Raiden is not that good, if you don't agree fine, prove yourself or shut the fuck up.
 

B W1zZ

Noob
Stop being so cocky, I'm just stating facts. Look at the nobodies up there saying that Raiden is not that good, if you don't agree fine, prove yourself or shut the fuck up.
Who are you telling me I need to prove myself and to shut the fuck up? I disagree with top players saying Raiden sucks, so what? Keep talking shit and your going to earn yourself a ticket to ban land real quick. Consider that your warning.
 
Who are you telling me I need to prove myself and to shut the fuck up? I disagree with top players saying Raiden sucks, so what? Keep talking shit and your going to earn yourself a ticket to ban land real quick. Consider that your warning.
Oh yeah, we can't disagree with top players if we are not top players, sorry Mr. Raiden. You can be rude but I can't, sorry to disturb the peace.
 

Sao87

@thedigitaldojo
he is the best rush down character in this game by far. This game has turned into a rush down game. So therefore he's a top character.
Doesn't matter if people understand how to break apart his pressure and don't allow him to get close.

It's not a rush down game, the mechanics just heavily reward offense and punish defense. Cage still has issues with a huge chunk of the cast, things just worked out MLG weekend. I firmly stand by my opinion that he is nothing more than a solid counter pick character, there is nothing wrong with that though.
 

Maxter

Noob
After MLG and going to VSM a lot and going over different match ups with the CD bros my new Tier list is something like this..

Kabal
Cage
Kenshi
Sonya
Smoke
Kitana
Freddy
Jax
Sektor
Mileena
Cyrax
Kung Lao
Raiden
Reptile
Shang Tsung
Quan Chi
Liu Kang
Ermac
Cyber Sub
Kano
Noob Saibot
Nightwolf
Sub Zero
Baraka
Scorpion
Stryker
Sindel
Skarlet
Rain
Sheeva
Jade
lol claude, nice list cage is good but he is not top 5 he has over 7 bad matchups really, i agree raiden being out of the top 10 list, as players skills evolve raiden is going down on the tier list, raiden is still a good character but he has lost a lot.
as i stated before he is only good if people play his game, raiden depends too much on his opponents making mistakes to win, like wiffing strings, jumping, or just not playing defensive enough, superman can punish wiffs and jumps really good at a range, now people has learned to not go on full strings to avoid this just in case of a random teleport, there was a time when raiden could teleport on reaction to projectiles and still have the advantage on the first hit even tho opponents could block it, now he cant, the nerfs on teleport and ex vblast advantage ruined this character completely.

His best combo strings being interruptable and so much armor on the game plus xrays will make you think about on going on a full string, his f2,4 is still good but its only a 2 hit string and people can check this and make him wiff and go in and full punish alongside with most of his strings, PL and Jwong are not bad raidens at all it is just the character is not good anymore against players who knows how to fight him, NRS listened to the complainers and the character was ruined there was not reason to touch raiden at all he wasnt that beast people thought he was, sorry bwizz i know you are a pro raiden player but is time to face he reality, the thunder god is not that good anymore and not because of how we use him but because his main tools were nerfed =(
 
lol claude, nice list cage is good but he is not top 5 he has over 7 bad matchups really, i agree raiden being out of the top 10 list, as players skills evolve raiden is going down on the tier list, raiden is still a good character but he has lost a lot.
as i stated before he is only good if people play his game, raiden depends too much on his opponents making mistakes to win, like wiffing strings, jumping, or just not playing defensive enough, superman can punish wiffs and jumps really good at a range, now people has learned to not go on full strings to avoid this just in case of a random teleport, there was a time when raiden could teleport on reaction to projectiles and still have the advantage on the first hit even tho opponents could block it, now he cant, the nerfs on teleport and ex vblast advantage ruined this character completely.

His best combo strings being interruptable and so much armor on the game plus xrays will make you think about on going on a full string, his f2,4 is still good but its only a 2 hit string and people can check this and make him wiff and go in and full punish alongside with most of his strings, PL and Jwong are not bad raidens at all it is just the character is not good anymore against players who knows how to fight him, NRS listened to the complainers and the character was ruined there was not reason to touch raiden at all he wasnt that beast people thought he was, sorry bwizz i know you are a pro raiden player but is time to face he reality, the thunder god is not that good anymore and not because of how we use him but because his main tools were nerfed =(
This tier list is terrible lol idk where he got that list from and 7 bad matchups for cage? Explain please. I thought cage only had like 3 bad matchups.
 

B W1zZ

Noob
sorry bwizz i know you are a pro raiden player but is time to face he reality, the thunder god is not that good anymore and not because of how we use him but because his main tools were nerfed =(
The way I see it is he was nerfed, so what, I just deal with it. I'm not the type to just say "oh this character sucks now because he got nerfed". I innovate and find ways around these weaknesses. His regular tele and vicinity blast were nerfed but he did receive a buff as well. Maybe NRS nerfed him for a reason, not just because of complainers. In my opinion the way he is now you have to play with strong fundamentals and yomi to do well with him. I honestly don't feel like he's underpowered or a bad character in any sense, and I honestly can't see myself maining another character.
 

Sao87

@thedigitaldojo
This tier list is terrible lol idk where he got that list from and 7 bad matchups for cage? Explain please. I thought cage only had like 3 bad matchups.
Control characters, if he can't utilize his strengths he becomes the worst character in the game.

Freddy, kitana, kenshi, noob, sektor, sub-zero, kabal, sonya.
 

Theme

Noob
After watching MLG, and having picked up Cage for a couple days now, I can say with confidence, he is now in my top 5. Raiden, IMO is still top 5 material, but lately, I havent seen or heard anything groundbreaking being done with him. He should win more majors if anything.
 
Control characters, if he can't utilize his strengths he becomes the worst character in the game.

Freddy, kitana, kenshi, noob, sektor, sub-zero, kabal, sonya.
Out of that list, only sub noob and kabal seem to beat cage. Sektors trash wakeups get him blown up vs cage when cage gets a knockdown, pig actually said Kenshi cage 5 5, and Sonya vs cage comes down to who doesn't get rushed down as much as the other.
 

M2Dave

Zoning Master
Control characters, if he can't utilize his strengths he becomes the worst character in the game.

Freddy, kitana, kenshi, noob, sektor, sub-zero, kabal, sonya.
Freddy vs Cage is 5:5 if the Cage player knows the Freddy match up.

I see you are still underrating your character.

Edit: Cage's most difficult match up is Kenshi. Possibly 7:3.
 

KingHippo

Alternative-Fact Checker
Freddy-Cage is brutal when f3 stops working if the Freddy player can actively stop his offense with d1xxNMS whenever the the pressure goes back to neutral...which is a lot. Forget about getting around Freddy's projectile that easy, or jumping at full screen, trying to land an air breaker to get close with all those unbreakerable combos.

6-4 at best.
 

Death

Noob
At the highest possible level i just cant see Cage losing to Noob, Sektor, Sonya, Freddy. I can see Kenshi Kabal and Sub being a problem for Cage. No way he has that many bad MUs.
 

KingHippo

Alternative-Fact Checker
Sektor I could see; his pressure (which is a guessing game, you don't have to stand block and take it) is usually escapable by a d1...Sektor would get a full combo in that scenario. Not to mention he's got a pretty good projectile, and it seems like it could be a pretty rough hill to climb
 
either way, people right now must be coming up with anti cage techs. I for one believe that if cages strings whiff you can get your combo punish on him, throwing projectiles against this character isnt getting you anywhere unless your zoning is among the tops.