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Take$$$

gotta take it to make it
No, because I've seen a lot of people be really surprised when they find out. It's been that way for a long time though.
Mannn how come I'm just now finding out? Its also possible someone told me before and I forgot, but I dunno.
 

mk_mamood77

Liu/JohnnyKenshi main

Am I the only one that didn't know about this?!?!?!?!
This is weird because I was practicing her cancels and the computer didnt reversal me. Maybe I am wrong but sometime liu's med strings create gaps between hits if not spaced right. This might also happen to devorah.
 
This is weird because I was practicing her cancels and the computer didnt reversal me. Maybe I am wrong but sometime liu's med strings create gaps between hits if not spaced right. This might also happen to devorah.
The gap appears on max range, as i understand it, as it works with no gap 212 on max range.
 

Second Saint

A man with too many names.
...I think I did a thing again. Had a friend of mine, Loryia, confirm it for XL. When you break armor with EX Bug Spray, the listed combo damage is incredibly inaccurate. The EX spray does 7% damage on its initial hit, but until it gets a straight hit, it stays 7% damage. So for every hit of armor you break, you get 7%, then another 7 for the first hit. When you break an X-ray, it does about 34%. You can't full break Lackey's EX charge, but you sure as hell win the trade.

Was this known? I feel like I should've heard of this if it was already known. It seems pretty glitchy, and should probably be fixed though.

youtu.be/yNGIrDb1UjM

 
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Second Saint

A man with too many names.
Turns out you can break Lackey's EX Charge, but this also seems like a glitch because he goes into hitstun while still having armor. Not sure what causes it and I can't replicate it often. Like 1/50 tries. Not sure what's going on there.
 

Second Saint

A man with too many names.
She needs a buff is what's going on
My dream buff is making the initial hit of ex bug spray plus on block and/or comboable with a rc 11b2/212, while extending it gives the normal unsafety, and you are unable to do two sprays in one combo without it knocking down. I'd be fine with a serious chip damage nerf for this.

Aren't things that will never happen fun :(
 

24K

Noob
Has D'Vorah been seeing less and less high level tournament play. I only get to see the odd top 4 here and there and never see her. So can anybody tell me if she makes it anywhere near the top 16 anymore. And if not, what makes her such a bad tournament pick. Or is it just a case of other characters work better at high level.
 

Second Saint

A man with too many names.
Has D'Vorah been seeing less and less high level tournament play. I only get to see the odd top 4 here and there and never see her. So can anybody tell me if she makes it anywhere near the top 16 anymore. And if not, what makes her such a bad tournament pick. Or is it just a case of other characters work better at high level.
It's not that she's a bad tournament pick, just that the only player that really represents her at high levels is Honeybee. She has some bad matchups, but she's definitely a high tier character. I want to say that Honeybee got 9th at Combo Breaker. I know he lost to Perfect Legend and Red Raptor. He still competes and does pretty well, but if it isn't Bee, you probably won't see a D'vorah.
 

ShadyHeart

Relationship with Sonya ended
Maybe if wasp grenade cancels weren't absurdly hard and her other variations weren't poo people would actually play her.
 

ShadyHeart

Relationship with Sonya ended
They aren't hard at all actually. Just gotta practice
Getting B1 > wasp grenade cancel > 212 to connect is damn hard for me to do even once, let alone consistently. Feels nearly frame perfect with how fast you need to be. F22 into 212 is pretty strict but so much easier than B1.

I can get the cancel consistently but the speed required is redonk.
 

Invincible Salads

Seeker of knowledge
so how do i play against sub zero? i mean i know generally what beats him, but what are all the things i need to know so i can play the MU like the 7-3 it really is? xD
 

TopTierHarley

Kytinn King
so how do i play against sub zero? i mean i know generally what beats him, but what are all the things i need to know so i can play the MU like the 7-3 it really is? xD
Don't listen to him, d4 puddle, or puddle Midscreen is death. Punish every clone cancel except f4 clone with f2 or d4. Start of the match is in your favor if you read a d4 and do U3. Reversal db4 will always punish b2 on block. Space him out properly with d3 and d4.
 

Invincible Salads

Seeker of knowledge
Don't listen to him, d4 puddle, or puddle Midscreen is death. Punish every clone cancel except f4 clone with f2 or d4. Start of the match is in your favor if you read a d4 and do U3. Reversal db4 will always punish b2 on block. Space him out properly with d3 and d4.
i remember hearing something about using ovipositors in response to clones in the corner. is that a thing?
 

ShadyHeart

Relationship with Sonya ended
So due to literally never seeing a D'vorah in the ~1500 online matches I've played (aside from a couple people who pressed random buttons), I don't really understand what the non-Swarm Queen variations brings to the table. I've seen people say her non-SQ variations are still good so I basically want to know why I would pick them over my mains (CO Sonya, Kitana, and Mileena), how you open people up safely, and how you play them in general.

She's a cool looking character that I want to play but SQ cancels are way too much of a time commitment to learn to get consistently.
 

Invincible Salads

Seeker of knowledge
So due to literally never seeing a D'vorah in the ~1500 online matches I've played (aside from a couple people who pressed random buttons), I don't really understand what the non-Swarm Queen variations brings to the table. I've seen people say her non-SQ variations are still good so I basically want to know why I would pick them over my mains (CO Sonya, Kitana, and Mileena), how you open people up safely, and how you play them in general.

She's a cool looking character that I want to play but SQ cancels are way too much of a time commitment to learn to get consistently.
SQ cancels arent THAT bad, the only one i still really need to work on is the b1 cancel, i can do it fine offline but in the middle of a fight online its difficult.
 

ShadyHeart

Relationship with Sonya ended
SQ cancels arent THAT bad, the only one i still really need to work on is the b1 cancel, i can do it fine offline but in the middle of a fight online its difficult.
I only like doing things I'm consistent at. My success rate on B1 > 212 is like 5-10% and my other cancels aren't 100%.