"You're No Warrior!"- Hawkgirl General Discussion (1.06 and onward)

[TrulyAmiracle]

I've noticed that a while back but man getting the timing down is NOT easy, especially that in most scenarios the risk to trying to WE through stuff is too big if you mess up.
in some scenarios like GL's b1 followups yeah its great and you should def use that, I'm talking about doing it go through armored f/b3 or whatever especially that theyre delayable.

It has great potential tho so we'll see, I do have high hopes in the move and getting the inv frames down will be imo down the lines it'll be what shows a high-level HG from the others.

 

[kaseyk]

I've noticed that a while back but man getting the timing down is NOT easy, especially that in most scenarios the risk to trying to WE through stuff is too big if you mess up.
in some scenarios like GL's b1 followups yeah its great and you should def use that, I'm talking about doing it go through armored f/b3 or whatever especially that theyre delayable.

It has great potential tho so we'll see, I do have high hopes in the move and getting the inv frames down will be imo down the lines it'll be what shows a high-level HG from the others.

i have mastered the immune we fr so well i can do it reliably online . against gl b1string i poke out with d1-combo but WE does work except on b13-lm no trait the lm will catch we2. interactables are the best practice for it . go through the different types and just record ai tossing them till they are second nature to we . then common specials like sin rock , dd sn , hg mirror mc is a fun one too lol ,
and for cross throughs this tactic ruins grundy on every wakeup u go through free then punish and when he gets duck happy we4-mtmb down .
WE immune is 1000 times easier to master than back dash also !

 

[F4tal]

My new favorite string to use on an opponent when they are waking up (If I think they are going to I just hold back and wait for it) is F12. I was playing a good Lex online today and he kept doing corpse charge on wake up and I punished it every time with F12 because you can then cancel into flight and did 2 MC. I like how you have about 1-2 seconds to fly forward to do a 2 into MC or 23 to keep characters like Bane away since he is dangerous up close. The fact that F12's hitstun is that long is awesome in my opinion.

 

[F4tal]

I've noticed that a while back but man getting the timing down is NOT easy, especially that in most scenarios the risk to trying to WE through stuff is too big if you mess up.
in some scenarios like GL's b1 followups yeah its great and you should def use that, I'm talking about doing it go through armored f/b3 or whatever especially that theyre delayable.

It has great potential tho so we'll see, I do have high hopes in the move and getting the inv frames down will be imo down the lines it'll be what shows a high-level HG from the others.

I think she will just get better as the game progresses. Yeah there may be slight gaps and holes in her strings but we are finding new stuff all the time. META BREAKER!

 

[kaseyk]

My new favorite string to use on an opponent when they are waking up (If I think they are going to I just hold back and wait for it) is F12. I was playing a good Lex online today and he kept doing corpse charge on wake up and I punished it every time with F12 because you can then cancel into flight and did 2 MC. I like how you have about 1-2 seconds to fly forward to do a 2 into MC or 23 to keep characters like Bane away since he is dangerous up close. The fact that F12's hitstun is that long is awesome in my opinion.

you mean f11 . f11 is perfect spacer for j3 crossup and stun is long enough to fly forward and down a little and do air 12-mc

 

[F4tal]

you mean f11 . f11 is perfect spacer for j3 crossup and stun is long enough to fly forward and down a little and do air 12-mc

Yes that was a typo haha but yes I just found out you could do that as well it's just a little hard to time for me. I think it's one of her best strings aside from WE3 shenanigans

 

[PPJ]

i like hawkgirl

 

[TheSpore]

Well its been a while and I just went through some character crisis swapping back in forth between BG, HG, Zatanna, and GA, but I'm back I am going all in on HG and bG from now on, ah how I missed the Hawk lady

 

[Espio]

Some cool counter Martian tech: Hawkgirl can wing evade out of down 1 push and down 1 Martian grab and punish for full combo.

She doesn't need to guess which one he's doing since it works for both down 1 special cancels, which makes this insanely practical for dealing with them.

 

[nuttyAFA]

Some cool counter Martian tech: Hawkgirl can wing evade out of down 1 push and down 1 Martian grab and punish for full combo.

She doesn't need to guess which one he's doing since it works for both down 1 special cancels, which makes this insanely practical for dealing with them.

I wonder if that works against zod block strings into palm?

edit: nope . I do need to start abusing this ability though when it does work

 

[Cabronium]

Insurance paid up

 

[RunwayMafia]

Do you guys remember Boodendorf? I miss him...

 

[nuttyAFA]

Do you guys remember Boodendorf? I miss him...

He seemed cool, level headed and helpful. I miss Hawkgirl, doing this online tourney with Lobo makes me miss her more and more. Sigh

 

[RunwayMafia]

He seemed cool, level headed and helpful. I miss Hawkgirl, doing this online tourney with Lobo makes me miss her more and more. Sigh

I know, me too! I'm in the lab with her as I type TRYING to find something with her. Whenever all of these tech whores finds something awesome for their characters, I always envision us (the HG community) finding out she has a standing reset/vortex. lol

 

[HellblazerHawkman]

Do you guys remember Boodendorf? I miss him...

I've heard legends of the fellow. Speaking of which, you can't combo off of B223, right? The sweep just knocks them down, no time for anything else?

 

[ChatterBox]

You can't combo off of B223, right? The sweep just knocks them down, no time for anything else?

I've always thought it looked like you had time for a d1 if its in the corner. Never had it work though.

 

[nuttyAFA]

I know, me too! I'm in the lab with her as I type TRYING to find something with her. Whenever all of these tech whores finds something awesome for their characters, I always envision us (the HG community) finding out she has a standing reset/vortex. lol

There are so many things that almost seem like it could turn into good tech, but it never pans out...she is what she is i suppose

 

[HellblazerHawkman]

I was wondering about this recently, and maybe someone can set me straight. B23 and B22xxWE3 work as a 50/50 in the corner, and if I got the frame data right, it's mostly safe, with B23 being only -3 on block (isn't -2 what's considered safe?) and B22xxWE3 being (+1? Correct me if wrong). But I never see this used or mentioned, is there something I'm missing? And I asked about B223 because I'm looking for a way to make this into a viable 33/33/33.

 

[kaseyk]

I've heard legends of the fellow. Speaking of which, you can't combo off of B223, right? The sweep just knocks them down, no time for anything else?

nothing after b223 it's not even a hdk . it is worth using though . and b223 , b22 or b23 can't be poked out of .

 

[HellblazerHawkman]

nothing after b223 it's not even a hdk .

Yeah, just tested for myself. No cancels into anything :\

 

[kaseyk]

There are so many things that almost seem like it could turn into good tech, but it never pans out...she is what she is i suppose

hg has tons of dirty tech ,wing evade cancels/delays , side switches , excellent interactable usage probably the best in game , frame traps , standing resets , wake up input reversal , the best character in game for throw usage , omg it hurts corner game , wing evade invincible frames .
she just takes dedication do to all her body size and character specific dirt ex try b22-we3 side switch reset against ba then try it against sinestro (doesn't work on sin outside of you in corner ) .
every other character just bores me to use now with all my hg dirt

 

[nuttyAFA]

hg has tons of dirty tech ,wing evade cancels/delays , side switches , excellent interactable usage probably the best in game , frame traps , standing resets , wake up input reversal , the best character in game for throw usage , omg it hurts corner game , wing evade invincible frames .
she just takes dedication do to all her body size and character specific dirt ex try b22-we3 side switch reset against ba then try it against sinestro (doesn't work on sin outside of you in corner ) .
every other character just bores me to use now with all my hg dirt

it's dirty in a vacuum, not nearly as much when you look at the top half of the cast and the damage they can do midscreen off fast hitting normals that cover more distance then any of her's while maintaining large amounts of meter cuz they don't have to use it to approach. I'm pretty sure zod has the better interactable usage then her lol

she is good though, you just have to be prepared to pester your opponent to death

 

[kaseyk]

it's dirty in a vacuum, not nearly as much when you look at the top half of the cast and the damage they can do midscreen off fast hitting normals that cover more distance then any of her's while maintaining large amounts of meter cuz they don't have to use it to approach. I'm pretty sure zod has the better interactable usage then her lol

she is good though, you just have to be prepared to pester your opponent to death

watch the vids i put in my interactable thread . shit quality vid but massive dmg . once you touch them and are aware where the interactables are guaranteed dmg .

 

[TurboTaco]

Does anyone ever use her b22b3 string as a mixup? It hits mid,low, low. I assume most people are expecting the b22xxwe 2 which hits mid,low,overhead.

 

[kaseyk]

really the thing with mid screen dmg doesnt matter so much if you think about it . 2 combos 1 special or chip dmg is a health bar or 2 corner combos is a health bar . it's pretty much the same for every character on the roster . hg in some situations can wipe a whole hp bar in one interactable reset or 80%ish for 1 bar interactable combo and mid screen int combos average 50% . stage awareness .