Match-up Discussion Nightwing Matchup Discussion

[NightwingDayZero]

Also " assume hell keep doing it" doesnt apply to good players that know the matchup, noone will wakeup just because.

Really? Because your homeboy seems to disagree.

EDIT: After a hard knock down if NW wakes up with db3, and he will cause its his best wake up in staff mode because its both safe and has full invincibility, DD's crossup will get blown up, cause he gets hit while airborne by db3. That move has 360 degrees hit box.

Figure out a way around staff spin on wakeup. Protip: it's not body splash.

 

[Metzos]

Wow. Just wow.

Do my research? After you came in here and legit said Nightwing's D1 was +9?

Sweet fucking jesus, when I talk to you it's like you make up shit that I say, and then argue against it.

Get your last word in after this post....make it a good one because I am done with this madness.

Fuck me man. Fuck me.

I was wrong in one number, you couldnt even read my posts to see what i was saying. For the past 4 pages, all i was seeing was "dash the staff pounds", while clearly the problem was with what DD can do about NW's d1 spamming. Point being when someone asks you something if you dont know the answer, just say i dont know. It took all those posts for you to understand what was my problem with NW all along, when i clearly stated it from the beginning...

 

[Metzos]

So make the read, bait and punish? WoundCowboy punishes me for it all the time, with your helpless Doomsday

Staff spin is -6f on block. So please tell me how are you going to punish it with DD when he has no 6f moves and if he tries to armor through, armor gets blown up cause staff spin is a 5 hit move. Cross ups also dont work. Only way to bait and punish it is with back dash which isnt consistent because a good NW player will see it coming if you try to back dash away from him and he wont wake up attack...

 

[SonicBoomBrad]

Staff spin is -6f on block. So please tell me how are you going to punish it with DD when he has no 6f moves and if he tries to armor through, armor gets blown up cause staff spin is a 5 hit move. Cross ups also dont work. Only way to bait and punish it is with back dash which isnt consistent because a good NW player will see it coming if you try to back dash away from him and he wont wake up attack...

You can't punish it but all the momentum is in your favor after a staff spin. You get a free d1 ES or f2 ES without being interrupted. You could also grab I suppose.

 

[Metzos]

You can't punish it but all the momentum is in your favor after a staff spin. You get a free d1 ES or f2 ES without being interrupted. You could also grab I suppose.

So no punish at all. Cause all those hits can be blocked. Soo that guy doesnt know what he is talking about. Are you sure you can do f2 ES? F2 is a bit slow and NW isnt that much minus on block.

 

[TakeAChance]

Yo, can the doomsday players go discuss this on their board? We Dicks have tried to give you tips...you may need to hear them from your fellow players.

 

[SonicBoomBrad]

Yo, can the doomsday players go discuss this on their board? We Dicks have tried to give you tips...you may need to hear them from your fellow players.

I gave you advice on beating Doomsday as well. No need to be condescending.

 

[EMPEROR PRYCE]

Ummm I feel hawkgirl rapes nightwing lol.

 

[EMPEROR PRYCE]

Ummm I feel hawkgirl rapes nightwing lol.

 

[TakeAChance]

I gave you advice on beating Doomsday as well. No need to be condescending.

Not trying to be at all man. I appreciate every tip you give. Thank you

 

[TakeAChance]

Ummm I feel hawkgirl rapes nightwing lol.

I agree, but I don't play many high level ones. I may need to learn the matchup further.

 

[EMPEROR PRYCE]

True. TakeAChance will u mirror my NW sometime? I played rabbidwolf who was #3 on ranked for awhile, NW main and i beat him like 5-2. But idk if he really knew much tech and setups, he jus played the neutral game very well.

 

[TakeAChance]

True. TakeAChance will u mirror my NW sometime? I played rabbidwolf who was #3 on ranked for awhile, NW main and i beat him like 5-2. But idk if he really knew much tech and setups, he jus played the neutral game very well.

honestly, I have THTB syndrome. I have shitty internet and can't do the shit I want to do online. If you have XBL we could play, but mirror matches are awful lol

 

[EMPEROR PRYCE]

True, they are. I normally play mostly escrima in the NW mirror. Most Dicks switch straight to staff but i feel if I stay mobile enough I can trump them. As long as staff doesn't get the advantage, I feel escrima wins.

 

[Cosmic_Castaway]

Dafuq happened here?

 

[Chongo]

Dafuq happened here?

I'll get back to you when I figure it out.

 

[4x4lo8o]

What do you guys think of the Ares match up? There's a lot of debate about this match ups in the Ares match up discussion right now.
How big of a problem is Godsmack in Staff Stance?

 

[Sajam]

What do you guys think of the Ares match up? There's a lot of debate about this match ups in the Ares match up discussion right now.
How big of a problem is Godsmack in Staff Stance?

It's hard to deal with. You can actually do flying grayson if you react to it, but you just have to be sitting there waiting for it.

PGorath hits me with Godsmack all day when I'm in staff, and it makes it really hard to use that stance.

 

[Chongo]

What do you guys think of the Ares match up? There's a lot of debate about this match ups in the Ares match up discussion right now.
How big of a problem is Godsmack in Staff Stance?

I use Escrima way more on account of it being hard to deal with GS with staff and the fact that Ares can duck MB staff spin.

I haven't played the MU too much, but I have it as 6-4 NW.

 

[KombatNerd]

Been a long while since I've updated, so I'll get to it sometime soon....

 

[Chongo]

MMH cannot duck MB staff spin.

 

[NightwingDayZero]

http://www.twitch.tv/nightwingdayzero/b/438916788

Dr. Dick's Matchup Mad Science.

From this point forward I'll be doing the occasional matchup and gameplay breakdown which will highlight some of the day's previous footage. This will just be myself making some notes about the matchup, observing my errors and areas of improvement.

The purpose of today's highlight is to emphasize some changes to my approaches in two particular matchups. Black Adam and Sinestro.

I apologize for the first 20min or so of this breakdown being minimized. Shoutouts to someone in the stream bringing that to my attention.

In actuality, these breakdowns are really for myself - I'm just sharing my own analysis.

I would also like to note that I am not by any means an expert in fighting games. I've only been playing competitively for as long as Injustice has been out - I'm just a student here, studying my mistakes and doing my best to improve.

That said, this article here has inspired a change in the way I am playing. If you haven't already I recommend you read it.

http://insomnia.ac/commentary/domination_101/you_can_lead_a_scrub_to_water

 

[Dasblackman]

Sooo...Manhunter, what do we do?

 

[mush210]

From what little I've gathered, you've got to pay close attention to when he activates trait. With it active, he beats a lot of NW's pressure. Just back off and harass him with ground blast/spark or wingdings. His 3 and strings have crazy range and priority when trait's active, but aren't nearly as scary when it's not. When it wears off, go in and do damage.

If you're playing the long range game when his trait's up, it's only a matter of time until they teleport to get in. Block high (the uppercut hits mid and the kick hits high, iirc) and punish accordingly.

Be wary of one of his projectiles, it may be unblockable. I kept getting hit with it on wakeup, even though I was blocking (tried high and low). Maybe lag? Dunno......

 

[Spinky]

Scorpion (waste)

LOL.