Pig Of The Hut
Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
I'm talking about a day 1 strategyPIG TF you talking bout?
U block a d1 then u immediately counter w a 50/50 if your character has it
I'm talking about a day 1 strategyPIG TF you talking bout?
According to in game frame data, f12 is -2. F1 is 6f startup. 8f gap. Some characters had to hold an infinite on block. NRS is too busy chucking out damage to everyone instead of doing simple math.Wasn't there a 9 frame gap in f12(gap)f12
On block? Because if there is that's not a block infinite and its fucked up how ppl loosely thrown around the word saying otherwise. Shit is wrong man.
There was, but some characters had their fastest move at 10f at the time. IIRC Kenshi and Takeda were among them.Wait. Wasn't there a 9 frame gap between f12(gap)f12 on block?
F12 has always been -3 since day one.According to in game frame data, f12 is -2. F1 is 6f startup. 8f gap. Some characters had to hold an infinite on block. NRS is too busy chucking out damage to everyone instead of doing simple math.
So it's a 9frame gap not 8?F12 has always been -3 since day one.
U mean top 15Now that quan chi can get out of it il agree change it back because they destroyed raiden, he went from being top 3 to like basically bottom 15
Pre-day 1. Block a d1 and cyrax pulls your arm into a happy little -50-50.I'm talking about a day 1 strategy
U block a d1 then u immediately counter w a 50/50 if your character has it
Who are the two in your signature meant to be?Pre-day 1. Block a d1 and cyrax pulls your arm into a happy little -50-50.
LolSeems like the real thing tat needs to be reverted is Quans D1
Correct, it's still bad as far as options go. Best case scenario they would tradeSo it's a 9frame gap not 8?
Just make f12 -4 or 5 on block and return f1 to a mid. Why was this so hard to do?Correct, it's still bad as far as options go. Best case scenario they would trade
i dont think Quans d1 its even the problem with him, its like +3 on hit and -9 (lol) on block.Seems like the real thing tat needs to be reverted is Quans D1
Because something about Raiden having a 6f mid would make him OP and braindead. Trust me, you don't want to go down this road. I already tried. Everyone hates the idea of giving Raiden day 1 stuff because day 1 he was basically broken.Just make f12 -4 or 5 on block and return f1 to a mid. Why was this so hard to do?
Thanks, good to know I just need half a second to past instead of a full one to know I can move again. I'm guessing on whiff, after the active frames, is where that comes from. stupid kung fu hand roll.FOR THE RECORD RAIDEN'S B2 IS -35 ON BLOCK NOT -63.
Incorrect listing in the game.
You have a safe option with B2 into Shocker for ~ 11%, but hey that's none of my business.Thanks, good to know I just need half a second to past instead of a full one to know I can move again. I'm guessing on whiff, after the active frames, is where that comes from. stupid kung fu hand roll.
I never said there was no safe option. I'm fine with it being unsafe. I just find half a second pretty silly. Especially when most of it is from a silly animation. Looks worse on whiff. Like one of those old school fight intros in the movies.You have a safe option with B2 into Shocker for ~ 11%, but hey that's none of my business.
I don't know where the "end of world" sentiment comes from but . . .Also why are people talking about Raiden's d1 being -9 is like the end of the world? Let me list you how many characters have fast pokes that are that negative on block:
1- Cassie's d1, 7f, -8
2- Ermac's d1, 6f, -10
3- Jason's d3, 11f, -8 (lmao?)
4- Kano's d1 is 9f, -9, and his d4 is 8f, -7
5- Kitana's d1, 8f, -9
6- Kotal's d4, 6f, -10
7- Predator's d4, 8f, -13
8- Need I talk about Quan's?
9- Scorpion's d1, 6f, -9
10- Shinnok's d1, 6f, -9
11- Subzero's fastest pokes are d1 and d4, both 9f and -6 on block (NotLikeThis)
I guess I wasn't saying it loud enough...FOR THE RECORD RAIDEN'S B2 IS -35 ON BLOCK NOT -63.
Incorrect listing in the game.