B11 and F24 cancelled into LBRC are +3?
The strings where he sprays lightning and teleport. . . Like 1122.
Please explain why you think the f1 mid was actually too much/broken. "Not just it was broken"
because it was,i played vanilla raiden,and i never had to poke cause i was just f1 anywhere,i didn't even care about my pokes,i didn't even know how much frames they were cause i really never used one,i didn't have to...whenever i was near the opponent and even when we was neutral on block or when i was +1 or more i always went for f1 that builds half a bar or punish your opponent for trying anything without armor.i also remember that the game had so much more broken stuff,but i also remember that with raiden i just never gave a fuck,cause he was the most broken char i ever played in a fighting game,and now without his 6 frame mid,raiden is mid or mb high tier,proving how broken his f1 was.
@DarkSomethinG TG Raiden doesn't need a damage buff because he ends everything w resets or in the corner. You shouldn't be able to get ridiculous damage from a 6 frame punish one bar either. The balance is poor meterless damage/decent damage w meter for resets or corner carry & ridiculous meter build.
his damage is poor,his corner carry is crazy,but his meterbuild is not as good as it was,cause with f1 being a high opponents can now easilly escape with a poke and his other strings are just not as good...still he has a more than average meter build.but again,as i mentioned before,there are chars with much greater tools,lets take jax as an example,he has almost the same corner carry with raiden,he has a 6 frame high that leads always to 40%-45% and he also has great meter building.also his 11 is +2 on block while raiden's(f12) is -6 i think.so explain to me why jax can have that and raiden not...
Why are people so obsessed with requesting 9f mid f1 instead of already existing 9f mid that is b1 being fixed/tweaked/whatever?
Which evidently doesn't work as there are characters with pretty much all that, but also damage and mixups that are viable not only with standing reset.
its simple,cause when raiden do b11 LBC to whatever,he can't do lbc again so he loses damage.
also if raiden doesn't have stamina cause he did LBCs for pressure(or when he breaks),when he eventually opens up his opponent he won't be able to combo(after a b11).
also b11 still has problems with its hitbox...
Everything is a subject to change as long as we are discussing patches. So, I should probably rewrite my question: why do people feel that Raiden must lose 6f high if he wants particular 9f mid?
cause he really needs a reliable mid more than a good punisher.
e.g. what whould you prefer to have in cassie,her 6 frame 2 or her b1?
edit: a good solution whould be to add a lighting hit(just like f12b2) to b11,lets say b11b2.that whould solve many problems,ofc only if b11 is entirely fixed.
