ZATANNA - THE NEW DEATHSTROKE?

[Tony at Home]

The chip damage seems a bit high... but her actual damage is totally fine, as I said very much like a female GL! lol

I didn't notice the meter-building thingy, but if she really can build up meter that quickly, then perhaps that is something that needs looking at... overall though, I don't think there's anything wrong with her, and she's definitely not as beginner-friendly as Supes and Deathstroke. You'll need to be at least decent at fighting games to win regularly with her.

My fear at the moment, is she'll be an balanced character for about 99 % of the cast....

But there's gonna end up being one characters that has a 0-10 matchup against her simply because they have no tools that can deal with what she has....

Lobo comes to mind as a possible candidate.

 

[Angelic Storm]

her zoning is nowhere near pre patched or even patched DS

You got that right!

 

[tazzmission]

I'd say she has great mobility, but it comes from her air-teleport, which is just on another level of AMAZING.

I hope they speed up Ares/Raven teleport a bit to compensate for it.

i have to just get adjusted to her. im so use to mmh's playstyle so itll take time.

also why does cyborg superman have regime supermans outro and says kneel before me?

 

[iitRueii]

My fear at the moment, is she'll be an balanced character for about 99 % of the cast....

But there's gonna end up being one characters that has a 0-10 matchup against her simply because they have no tools that can deal with what she has....

Lobo comes to mind as a possible candidate.

Flash can't dash block dash block, so a good zatanna will hurt flash a lot before he gets in (just a feeling after testing)

 

[TheSpore]

Can someone test this, maybe to see if the insane chip is unintentional, see if it seems to do the same amount of damage when unblocked, because it could be that the game just isn't discerning the two.

 

[Angelic Storm]

My fear at the moment, is she'll be an balanced character for about 99 % of the cast....

But there's gonna end up being one characters that has a 0-10 matchup against her simply because they have no tools that can deal with what she has....

Lobo comes to mind as a possible candidate.

Well, that would still make her more balanced than a lot of the cast currently are... and Lobo suffers in a lot of match-ups to be fair... maybe he just needs a buff or two to be more competitive?

 

[iitRueii]

Can someone test this, maybe to see if the insane chip is unintentional, see if it seems to do the same amount of damage when unblocked, because it could be that the game just isn't discerning the two.

Unblocked it does 9% high and 7% low

 

[TheSpore]

Unblocked it does 9% high and 7% low

Hmmm what is the % with block

 

[insomnia_ftw]

Where were people's "obvious ways to get around this, adapt scrub" durring all of the bitching and moaning about Deathstroke...?
This is a character that isn't even out on PSN yet, and already I'm seeing so many complaits...

There was a ton of people saying that during the Deathstroke bitching, where were you? There was literally an entire thread called "The Deathstroke anti-nerf coalition" full of people trying to fight the whining.

 

[tazzmission]

if i have one little complaint i have to say i do not like her trait at all. feels to restrictive

 

[Tony at Home]

Can someone test this, maybe to see if the insane chip is unintentional, see if it seems to do the same amount of damage when unblocked, because it could be that the game just isn't discerning the two.

No, it does different damage when blocked and unblocked.

 

[TheSpore]

No, it does different damage when blocked and unblocked.

Well that about answers that!!! Thanx

 

[xInfra Deadx]

 

[PANDEMlC]

Since she can't do shit in that mode she's completely open to zoning as well, air mobility teleports, etc. That mode looks rough for slower people but some of them have options too, Grundy has Walking Corpse, chip reduction trait grab for example.

 

[iitRueii]

Hmmm what is the % with block

on hit 9% 7% on block 6.5% 5%

 

[iitRueii]

Since she can't do shit in that mode she's completely open to zoning as well, air mobility teleports, etc. That mode looks rough for slower people but some of them have options too, Grundy has Walking Corpse, chip reduction trait grab for example.

Her lightening cage would stop anyone teleporting in and her ravens shiled will stop projectiles.

She has the tools but needs the execution

 

[Angelic Storm]

Since she can't do shit in that mode she's completely open to zoning as well, air mobility teleports, etc. That mode looks rough for slower people but some of them have options too, Grundy has Walking Corpse, chip reduction trait grab for example.

Her trait does appear to be high risk against a huge amount of the cast... if it gives her advantage over a handful of other characters, I can't see the problem with that... changing strategy depending on the character you're facing is one of the fun things about fighting games!

 

[Ermaculate_Slim]

Zatanna's projectile does 6% chip high and 5% low.But prolly easy to avoid but idk need to take her into the lab for lil while.

 

[xInfra Deadx]

Her lightning rod is not a wakeup.

 

[Juggs]

I expected a thread like this, you know, the standard "let's complain about the new DLC character" thread... but I must say, I did not expect it to come on the very first day of Zatanna's release. And it's not even at the end of the day, it's just now the afternoon, lol.

The chronicles of TYM's tears continues!

 

[Angelic Storm]

I expected a thread like this, you know, the standard "let's complain about the new DLC character" thread... but I must say, I did not expect it to come on the very first day of Zatanna's release. And it's not even at the end of the day, it's just now the afternoon, lol.

The chronicles of TYM's tears continues!

If you'd been on the MK boards when the DLC characters got released for that, this wouldn't be surprising you, believe me! lol

 

[tazzmission]

I expected a thread like this, you know, the standard "let's complain about the new DLC character" thread... but I must say, I did not expect it to come on the very first day of Zatanna's release. And it's not even at the end of the day, it's just now the afternoon, lol.

The chronicles of TYM's tears continues!

im only complaing about her trait thats it. im sorry but but that leaves her open for attack expecially when she cant jump

 

[Juggs]

im only complaing about her trait thats it. im sorry but but that leaves her open for attack expecially when she cant jump

Hey the complaints may be warranted, I haven't downloaded her yet. But still, not even 24 hours has gone by and already complaint threads are up, has to be a record!

 

[Angelic Storm]

Hey the complaints may be warranted, I haven't downloaded her yet. But still, not even 24 hours has gone by and already complaint threads are up, has to be a record!

On here it may be, but I remember "nerf Kenshi, he's OP!", "Rain sucks, what a waste of money!", etc... type of threads within an hour of those characters being released for MK, it was ridiculous! hehe

 

[Tony at Home]

Hey the complaints may be warranted, I haven't downloaded her yet. But still, not even 24 hours has gone by and already complaint threads are up, has to be a record!

If the complaints are warranted then, don't you feel you are putting the blame on the community when it is the balance at fault?

Batgirl had a day 1 infinite. It got hotfixed day 1.

This may not be an infinite, but some things are so ridiculous, it's not like they are going to be less ridiculous over time.

Specifically, how fast she builds meter. 3 attacks = 1 bar, full meter in 9 seconds.