DC HUSTLE 106 said:
i mean if we are good on xbl and if a cabinet is as good as everyone says it is then most likely our skill will increase in that case.
Presicely. The point was never that you guys aren't good, it's that you aren't experiencing the full aspect of the game online, on a pad, etc. If you spent a week using a stick as if gamepads didn't exist, not only would you be very use to using a stick, but you might even be better at the game in general then you were using pad and then inevitably better in the long run.
As far as the competitive end goes, Crazy
(I don't know how Mach1 beat me or Frankie at EVO!!!!) is the only one who showed up on XBL to come out and prove his spot, and there is NO ONE else I've played on XBL exclusively who comes close to Crazy. Others however have come out, and gotten destroyed but were no worse for wear. As far as stick vs stick, I don't think anyone on XBL right now who has no stick experience has room to speak. All of the stick players have extensive pad experience, and chances are the only reason a lot of you don't have stick experience is because you missed the age gap when the game was out, meaning the stick users also have more pad experience as well, which in turn is also why we can say stick > pad.
The only players on here who have shown just how good they are (past the original tournament era for the game when it died out in 2000) in person on an arcade machine are Lex, Moe and Thrower. Was there any doubt? Probably not, at least they drove from Chicago to NJ to do it and they didn't even have to. There are a number of you on here who talk like you are the top of the heap, and perhaps compared to the rest of the main XBLers you are. There are some people you will never get to play at their full level. Here's a good analogy, it's easier to hit a baseball with a tennis racket than it is a baseball bat, but you are you ever going to hit that ball over the fence with a tennis racket? The same goes for a pad vs stick. You can do what's needed to beat a lot of people but it gets to a point where the limits of the pad are made apparent because the tactics needed to surpass the limits of the pad aren't there.
Dubson is also correct, any of the top fighters that have arcade originals have a major player base that doesn't play online and it is widely accepted that online play is garbage compared to that. The reason why I run regular arcade tournaments is to get people out to experience the real deal, and if you don't want to come out for them, that's your problem but they are there for everyone. The scenes for other games are still pretty huge tournament wise and no one in their right mind would ever compare arcade to console or netplay. The only reason I play online at all is because the competition is readily available, but I still go to arcades and play UMK3 against people and prefer it that way.
Many of you would be so much better if you took the time to learn stick. People make them for 360, they cost a bit but anyone can save up $150. It's worth it, unless of course you don't plan on playing UMK3 for very long.