UMK3 Tier list discussion

[ded]

if this inf is so easy for you guys, you dont mind to upload/show some matches where you use it right?

Errr... sorry man but who are you talking about? Want some matches of me doing rept infs?

i was not talking only to you Hanzo

 

[MKK hanzo]

Oh! i remember! LOL yes i will put some matches doing the inf LOL LOL LOL :twisted: :shock:

 

[DatBoyMook]

Shang being impossible to juggle is probably his best feature.

Dammit. Why did I have to find out this so late. Maybe I would have had a chance when I played Shock that one time.

 

[Shock]

I'll still juggle you!

 

[Reptile329]

Can someone please explain to me why Unmasked Sub-Zero can be considered almost last in the bottom tier? I'm not arguing, you guys are the experts, I just don't understand.

I understand he dosen't deal alot of damage, and is mainly a defensive char, but if he can truly be a beast dosen't that put him a little higher on the list?

I mean ive played some awesome subbys...

 

[Shock]

He can be deadly, but the amount of skill it requires to be deadly with him is great. Not anyone can just pick him up and use him, like say Kabal or Human Smoke. Tier lists basically determine which characters are the most efficient, least risk, most reward, etc. Biggest pay offs.

 

[Annihilator83]

Can someone please explain to me why Unmasked Sub-Zero can be considered almost last in the bottom tier? I'm not arguing, you guys are the experts, I just don't understand.

I understand he dosen't deal alot of damage, and is mainly a defensive char, but if he can truly be a beast dosen't that put him a little higher on the list?

I mean ive played some awesome subbys...

He requires quite a bit of effort to be effective in fights. Speaking of which, you won't find that many good SubZero players online too. Oh how I miss the MK3 SubZero... :twisted: ol:

 

[Reptile329]

Yeah they all just jump back, clone, slide.

Anyways, any chance Robo Smoke will ever pass Nightwolf on the list?

I know nightwolfs rush can beat wakeup spears, but isnt there more smoke can do in the long run?

I don't see alot of robot smoke talk here, thanks mainly to the newbs who ruin his rep.

 

[Birkin]

I looked at Robo Smoke's character guide and he's missing a combo. You guys may already know about it but you can get 50% off a teleport uppercut.

Full combo is:

Tel.Uppercut - walk forward then run in cancel hp jk air throw.

It works on pretty much every character, except Shang Tsung and Sheeva. You can also use LP which is easier but it does 49% instead, so it couldn't be used as a life saver. I just thought that it should be put in his character guide because it's not that hard to do, it's flaw is that you may not be able to turn invisible, but you can turn that flaw to your advantage by turning in visible and if they try to rush you can punish them accordingly.

EDIT: You can't do it on Shang or Sheeva unless you catch them jumping, that's the only possible way because they'll be higher and you'll be able to connect the HP.

EDIT: It does over 50%. Just thought you guys should know >_>

 

[Kazlaz]

I looked at Robo Smoke's character guide and he's missing a combo. You guys may already know about it but you can get 50% off a teleport uppercut.

Full combo is:

Tel.Uppercut - walk forward then run in cancel hp jk air throw.

It works on pretty much every character, except Shang Tsung and Sheeva. You can also use LP which is easier but it does 49% instead, so it couldn't be used as a life saver. I just thought that it should be put in his character guide because it's not that hard to do, it's flaw is that you may not be able to turn invisible, but you can turn that flaw to your advantage by turning in visible and if they try to rush you can punish them accordingly.

EDIT: You can't do it on Shang or Sheeva unless you catch them jumping, that's the only possible way because they'll be higher and you'll be able to connect the HP.

hes stonded right now

 

[Reptile329]

I looked at Robo Smoke's character guide and he's missing a combo. You guys may already know about it but you can get 50% off a teleport uppercut.

Full combo is:

Tel.Uppercut - walk forward then run in cancel hp jk air throw.

It works on pretty much every character, except Shang Tsung and Sheeva. You can also use LP which is easier but it does 49% instead, so it couldn't be used as a life saver. I just thought that it should be put in his character guide because it's not that hard to do, it's flaw is that you may not be able to turn invisible, but you can turn that flaw to your advantage by turning in visible and if they try to rush you can punish them accordingly.

EDIT: You can't do it on Shang or Sheeva unless you catch them jumping, that's the only possible way because they'll be higher and you'll be able to connect the HP.

thats true but id rather take 47% and an invisibility instead

but thats just me

 

[Annihilator83]

Yeah they all just jump back, clone, slide.

Ahh, you need to see my Subby.

 

[Reptile329]

Yeah they all just jump back, clone, slide.

Ahh, you need to see my Subby.

We haven't played in awhile :twisted:

 

[Shock]

Yeah they all just jump back, clone, slide.

Ahh, you need to see my Subby.

And mine! oll:

As for the Robot Smoke combo, yes we know about it, but thanks for mentioning it.

 

[Web Slinger]

Seems like Robo Smoke is really high on that tier list for the ease with which you can learn most of his moves (and a little bit longer to get a 45% combo down.)

 

[Ultimate Rusher]

This list I had made a year ago:


MY LIST: -------------------------- Your List
1. Kabal------------------------------1. Kabal
2. Human Smoke--------------------2. Human Smoke
3. Kung Lao--------------------------3. Kung Lao
4. Kano-------------------------------4. Kano
5. Ermac-----------------------------5. Reptile
6. Nightwolf--------------------------6. Ermac
7. Reptile-----------------------------7. Nightwolf
8. Sindel------------------------------8. Robo Smoke
9. Robo Smoke----------------------9. Sindel
10. Jax-------------------------------10. Jax
11. Kitana----------------------------11. Sonya
12. Sonya----------------------------12. Kitana
13. Stryker---------------------------13. Stryker
14. Unmasked Sub-Zero------------14. Scorpion
15. Jade------------------------------15. Unmasked Sub-Zero
16. Scorpion------------------------- 16. Jade
17. Sektor----------------------------17. Liu Kang
18. Liu Kang--------------------------18. Sektor
19. Classic Sub-Zero----------------19. Classic Sub-Zero
20. Cyrax-----------------------------20. Cyrax
21. Shang Tsung---------------------21. Shang Tsung
22. Mileena---------------------------22. Mileena
23. Sheeva---------------------------23. Sheeva

My Tier list is similar to the one that yall have created. I have only I few swip swaps here and there. But over all nice job with the guides

 

[Shock]

Your tier list is similar to that of N1nja Lord's.

 

[Rockzilla220]

This list I had made a year ago:


MY LIST: -------------------------- Your List
1. Kabal------------------------------1. Kabal
2. Human Smoke--------------------2. Human Smoke
3. Kung Lao--------------------------3. Kung Lao
4. Kano-------------------------------4. Kano
5. Ermac-----------------------------5. Reptile
6. Nightwolf--------------------------6. Ermac
7. Reptile-----------------------------7. Nightwolf
8. Sindel------------------------------8. Robo Smoke
9. Robo Smoke----------------------9. Sindel
10. Jax-------------------------------10. Jax
11. Kitana----------------------------11. Sonya
12. Sonya----------------------------12. Kitana
13. Stryker---------------------------13. Stryker
14. Unmasked Sub-Zero------------14. Scorpion
15. Jade------------------------------15. Unmasked Sub-Zero
16. Scorpion------------------------- 16. Jade
17. Sektor----------------------------17. Liu Kang
18. Liu Kang--------------------------18. Sektor
19. Classic Sub-Zero----------------19. Classic Sub-Zero
20. Cyrax-----------------------------20. Cyrax
21. Shang Tsung---------------------21. Shang Tsung
22. Mileena---------------------------22. Mileena
23. Sheeva---------------------------23. Sheeva

My Tier list is similar to the one that yall have created. I have only I few swip swaps here and there. But over all nice job with the guides

I don't like you because of that... oll:

 

[Web Slinger]

Wait, can anyone explain that RSmoke combo to a noob? I tele-punch and then...walk up, Hit High Punch (X) and then...jump for a jumpkick and airthrow right after?

Edit: Also, why is Kano considered so top tier? I've not played one person who uses him.

 

[TheRedPsychosis]

Wait, can anyone explain that RSmoke combo to a noob? I tele-punch and then...walk up, Hit High Punch (X) and then...jump for a jumpkick and airthrow right after?

Edit: Also, why is Kano considered so top tier? I've not played one person who uses him.

When my xbox gets back, I'll show you. Or just send Jokalk a message to invite you.. possibly Moody334(I think?). We all use Kano once in a while.

 

[Birkin]

Wait, can anyone explain that RSmoke combo to a noob? I tele-punch and then...walk up, Hit High Punch (X) and then...jump for a jumpkick and airthrow right after?

Edit: Also, why is Kano considered so top tier? I've not played one person who uses him.

You teleport punch, and walk until you recover a little bit of your run bar, you use that to run for a split second, HP, cancel it with either run or block (press HP then immediatly right after that press your right or left bumper), proceed with a jump kick and then a throw.

 

[abc ur dead0]

I don't cancel anything. I just hp then jk Air throw.

 

[Annihilator83]

I can't do that unless I cancel the hp like birkin mention. Pretty sure that combo takes 50%.

 

[Birkin]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you have to cancel it... I've tried not canceling and it never does the throw. It takes 51% with a HP and 49% with a LP. You can usually get invisibility because you're pretty low to the ground.

 

[abc ur dead0]

I did it 3 times last night on Rockzilla without canceling.

It's probably a hell of alot easier if you cancel though.