LBSH about kenshi

[PPJ]

Ermac is basically a more unsafe kenshi with no armor, more gimmicks, and more swag combo potential

 

[Big Pampering]

we will discuss it further

I think you should tag forever king , death, perfect legend, jr, reo in that KL mu discussion thread

Im open to discussion

8-2's are not matchups that exist within the top 15 characters imo. kung lao can really make use of his teleport mixups, like canceling strings into teleport, crossover teleports etc. but nothing he does is not punishable, each teleport/dive kick/jump/roll is punishable. people dont know a roll is really punishable on whiff.

the kenshi player should not stay still in this matchup, I saw you do a lot of good stuff in this matchup like d1's because that will interrupt his pressure and will anti air him if he does 1121 into crossover or 1121 into jumpkick dive kick. also uppercutting the 1121 after teleport 3 was very good too. the way you walked forward and backward is something no kenshi player does in the lao matchup, they just stand there. if the lao player happens to teleport and you were walking forward, you can full combo punish. kenshi had really good range on his normals as well so he can use his normals when lao is just outside the range of his standing 2. that low kick and overhead have really good range, so kenshi players shouldnt be afraid to challenge the lao player to a head on fight once in a while. this is a bad matchup so you should be taking these risks as a kenshi player.

if you dont poke out of his pressure, he will have safe offense on you all day. the leaast you can do is make the kung lao player have to guess.

 

[Obs_SmSwag]

Reo's the only one winning with Kabal, yet we get to call Kabal 'cheap' still.

LBSH, Kenshi is still cheap as shit, but it takes a great player to make him 'cheap'. I think people are justified in calling him cheap, but they're not at all justified in calling him easy mode.

 

[RunwayMafia]

Did you just sort of call me Lindsey lohan ?

True story. I have a friend in LA who partied with her a few months ago and he was far from impressed. He said she is a fucking paranoid mess who is going to die soon. Said it here first!

 

[Treadmill]

Fucking armor!!!!!!!!! Also I don't see one person saying pig isn't good. So I don't know why ppl keep defending him. He is clearly good.

#IamMuffinMuggers

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

True story. I have a friend in LA who partied with her a few months ago and he was far from impressed. He said she is a fucking paranoid mess who is going to die soon. Said it here first!

i said it 6 years ago

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thesuperficial.com

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Fucking armor!!!!!!!!! Also I don't see one person saying pig isn't good. So I don't know why ppl keep defending him. He is clearly good.

#IamMuffinMuggers

i think this is more about kenshi than me, at least i think it is

 

[Eddy Wang]

I beat everyone who came to play in at my crib with bf2 and ex db1 alone, does that makes Kenshi cheap? lolz

 

[Big Pampering]

Kung Lao punishes SC the easiest on block with his long rage 7f 2. Kung Lao gets in on Kenshi the easiest out of any character and pummels him with jab pressure. Kenshi's insane wall game is not effective against Kung Lao since he is the most mobile character and the hardest to keep against the corner. Kung Lao is also the ONLY character in the game that can bait super armor SC / RK from Kenshi with teleport mix-ups after a cross-up and punish with full combo reliably.

If Kabal beats Kenshi 7-3, then Kung Lao beats Kenshi 8-2. It should be basic logic really. Stop downplaying Kung Lao and overlooking his tools in this match-up. It's almost as if Kung Lao was designed to counter Kenshi.

dude, I am the last person to downplay kung lao. kung lao only punishes the sc if you do it too close, so just because you cant do it point blank range doesnt mean it is horrible. Kung lao is his worst matchup but can you really say kenshi players are playing this matchup to their full potential? you know they arent making use of their options. no matter how big your hitbox after your 21/24/1121 string ends you will have to guess to start your pressure again. kung lao cannot start another string if you poke, if you poke kung lao will spin, if kung lao spins you can block it. the kung lao player has huge advantage but kenshi has a lot more options than any 8-2 matchup.

for example 1121 can be uppercutted out of in some situations, like after teleport 3, which you can see in the match with pig and tom. kung lao players should be using 21 out of teleport 3 anyway because the teleport is 0 on block, so any character with a 9 frame move can actually interrupt that for full combo. teleport 3 is still easy hitconfirm with 21 and 21 does more damage. if kl player uses 21 they WILL have to poke they cannot counter with a normal unless they are sektor.

after 1121 kung lao can get d1'd out of pressure and this also prevents them form corrsing over or do the jumpkick dive kick over you. it covers 3 options. so the kung lao player has to spin to keep his offense going.

this is not downplaying, how is saying it is a 7-3 against a top 4 character downplaying?

and you have to keep in mind, kung lao can get away with all these teleports, but they are still not safe.

Edit: dopesnt kenshi have one of the best walk speed in the game? dash away from teleport and punish, not easy but you should be able to do this a few times in a match against lao.

 

[Treadmill]

i think this is more about kenshi than me, at least i think it is

It's supposed to be, but you are Kenshi.

#IamMuffinMuggers

 

[A F0xy Grampa]

dude, I am the last person to downplay kung lao. kung lao only punishes the sc if you do it too close, so just because you cant do it point blank range doesnt mean it is horrible. Kung lao is his worst matchup but can you really say kenshi players are playing this matchup to their full potential? you know they arent making use of their options. no matter how big your hitbox after your 21/24/1121 string ends you will have to guess to start your pressure again. kung lao cannot start another string if you poke, if you poke kung lao will spin, if kung lao spins you can block it. the kung lao player has huge advantage but kenshi has a lot more options than any 8-2 matchup.

for example 1121 can be uppercutted out of in some situations, like after teleport 3, which you can see in the match with pig and tom. kung lao players should be using 21 out of teleport 3 anyway because the teleport is 0 on block, so any character with a 9 frame move can actually interrupt that for full combo. teleport 3 is still easy hitconfirm with 21 and 21 does more damage. if kl player uses 21 they WILL have to poke they cannot counter with a normal unless they are sektor.

after 1121 kung lao can get d1'd out of pressure and this also prevents them form corrsing over or do the jumpkick dive kick over you. it covers 3 options. so the kung lao player has to spin to keep his offense going.

this is not downplaying, how is saying it is a 7-3 against a top 4 character downplaying?

and you have to keep in mind, kung lao can get away with all these teleports, but they are still not safe.

Edit: dopesnt kenshi have one of the best walk speed in the game? dash away from teleport and punish, not easy but you should be able to do this a few times in a match against lao.

Delayed tele 3 combos, cant interupt.

 

[Death]

Kenshi is fucked up

 

[Juggs]

Kenshi is easy to use and learn. One of the easiest characters in the game to use effectively, imo. And yet, where are all the Kenshi's? Just because a character is "easy", it doesn't make them broken. Him being easy to use doesn't mean he's easy to win with at high levels. It just means he's easy to use.

Easy to use =/= Winning

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

Pig + Kenshi = really tough fight.

He's made Kenshi his own character. Kind of how Tom makes SZ .... or REO makes Kabal..... or Dizzy cage.

if you haven't noticed.... people are giving Pig much harder fights.... because he is leveling up everyone in the MU.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Kenshi is fucked up

Says the guy who Plays a character that beats kenshi 7-3/8-2 and also uses another top "6" character and downplays her
#cool

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Delayed tele 3 combos, cant interupt.

R u absolutely sure?

 

[A F0xy Grampa]

R u absolutely sure?

Yea thats the whole point of delaying the teleport, delay 3 combos, instant 3 doesnt.

 

[Big Pampering]

Delayed tele 3 combos, cant interupt.

tele 3 ON BLOCK is neutral, 1121 follow up can be interrupted with 9frame move or faster. if you use 21 which is 7 frames people need to poke out, to interrupt your offense, or armor.

 

[A F0xy Grampa]

tele 3 ON BLOCK is neutral, 1121 follow up can be interrupted with 9frame move or faster. if you use 21 which is 7 frames people need to poke out, to interrupt your offense, or armor.

No, delay tele 3 on block gives a blockstring, instant doesnt.
This is literally day 1 stuff guys, step it up.

 

[TargetAudience]

All this Kenshi overreacting is flat-out ridiculous. Kenshi loses to Kabal 3-7, and Kung Lao 2-8. Just because Tom got his ass whooped by Pig's Kenshi doesn't mean the match isn't terrible. This comunity has some of the most bipolar people I've ever seen.

and LBSH tbs kl is ass... other top kl player would have beaten the shit out of pig.. specially PL.

but the problem is safe super armor plus on block... that is bullshit and yall know it.

 

[GLoRToR]

While I have been constantly put on blast and called out for saying so, I still stand by what I said at day one.
"Cheap" is a scrub mentality.
Kenshi has godlike tools, admittedly an unpatched dlc with bullshit enough for three characters. But he's a top tier and that's that.
Find a way to beat him, pick up a character that is known to be able to take him on, and do work.
Scrubs gtfo.

 

[Big Pampering]

No, delay tele 3 on block gives a blockstring, instant doesnt.

does it jail? if it doesnt jail, they will be able to poke out.


btw: I know this isnt your point but the whole problem for kenshi is the instant tele 3. if you go for the delayed 3 the kenshi player has enough time to counter. thats why I said after (instant)tele 3 you should use 21.

 

[A F0xy Grampa]

does it jail? if it doesnt jail, they will be able to poke out.


btw: I know this isnt your point but the whole problem for kenshi is the instant tele 3. if you go for the delayed 3 the kenshi player has enough time to counter. thats why I said after (instant)tele 3 you should use 21.

It cant be interupted.

Even this video was far after all the shit was known.
Its about the rules of instant 3.

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

Sometimes.... you people.

just play with your talent. quit worrying about your character. Kenshi is built to frustrate you into mistakes. Anyone who's ever given Pigshi any trouble plays calm an collective with a gameplan. I mean.... c'mon guys.

You should be discussing and strategizing on situations that Kenshi puts himself in that are not to his absolute advantage. Clearly there aren't as many... but still. That just means you can not miss.

This is the same stuff that happened on the birth of mk9.... and gave some characters unfair nerfs and buffs. It takes longer when you have shitty online to grind the matchup.... but you have to grind it.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

and LBSH tbs kl is ass... other top kl player would have beaten the shit out of pig.. specially PL.

but the problem is safe super armor plus on block... that is bullshit and yall know it.

Hmm

Come on man I went 5-5 w forever king

I feel I've also excelled lately in the MU