General/Other - Johnny Cage Johnny Cage General Discussion Thread

[rafaw]

Today i will be testing one thing only, after a np, i will allways mix d4~f3[4]rc into string of choice/throw, and like 1 in 10 np i will do a raw f24, vs a good player they will allways block high after np, so your +22 after the d4 hits, so all they can do is block the f3 cancel or get comboed of it if they dont, after a lot of d4 they might start defending low, either way is a win/win for JC!!

Just some thoughts =)

Just a feedback:
Ive done it and its the way to go imo! Either you get a d4 into same situation of np but with an extra damage of the d4, and after lets say, 4 of those d4 they start to block low, and you mix with f24... got great success yesterday!
I was doing a lot of this after np: walk a bit foward while they are stunned, d4~f3[4]rc f24/113xxbf[4]back dash on block or np on hit, some throws here and there too, mainly ive done d4~f3[4]rc~f24, in this case they will just defend high, then you start mixing 113/11~f24. if i have meter to spend ive done d4~f3[4]rc~f24xxexforceball~d4!
And you will be surprise on the amount of times people tryed to jump/press button after your d4 just to be hited by f3[4] into full combo.

Just a breakdown of my session yesterday =D

Imo JC dont have that much of a 50/50 game, but hes almost a constant pressure upclose like he was in mk9, if not better.

 

[NY_Jailhouse]

still see no reason to use this character with bad normals and bad mixup when there are characters like quan chi, cassie cage, kung jin, etc

your entire mixup is nullified by mashing down 1 since notjhing actually hits mid and you dont have a low starting string that combos lol. uselessw character

 

[KingHippo]

F3(4) xx rc is literally so plus you can get d4, d3, and f2 out before any possible i6 reversal. It's not a launching 50/50, but it's pretty damn good. You're literally just selling bills because you're not good with the character. Stop.

 

[NY_Jailhouse]

hes bad

 

[rafaw]

still see no reason to use this character with bad normals and bad mixup when there are characters like quan chi, cassie cage, kung jin, etc

your entire mixup is nullified by mashing down 1 since notjhing actually hits mid and you dont have a low starting string that combos lol. uselessw character

Dont think his normals are bad, and try to d1 this strategy i posted earlier, you will get combo after combo!

 

[EGP Awesomo]

Im so salty that my match vs chrisg wasnt streamed! I feel that the way I play him is exactly how cage should be played, I link the match when its up on youtube

 

[NY_Jailhouse]

some of the worst normals in the entire game,

 

[MrProfDrPepper]

some of the worst normals in the entire game,

i do believe kenshi has it worse. his fucking uppercut is his fastest normal. but i just popped here to see some johnny cage tech since i might pick him up for online since i like the character

 

[rafaw]

Im so salty that my match vs chrisg wasnt streamed! I feel that the way I play him is exactly how cage should be played, I link the match when its up on youtube

Somebody told me to watch your games at the major! i tryed but didnt find then, i will apreciate if you link the matchs here

 

[NY_Jailhouse]

i do believe kenshi has it worse. his fucking uppercut is his fastest normal. but i just popped here to see some johnny cage tech since i might pick him up for online since i like the character

do kenshi's mids hit mid? then theyre not worse than johnny cages

 

[MrProfDrPepper]

do kenshi's mids hit mid? then theyre not worse than johnny cages

He had zero over heads. And one low. Everything else is mid. His only two over heads come from one combo that is long and predictable and unsafe, and the other comes from a short string that is predictable and ends with a hard nock down to continue kenshis noon existant mix ups.

 

[NY_Jailhouse]

at least his moves dont whiff on crouching characters

 

[MrProfDrPepper]

at least his moves dont whiff on crouching characters

Fair enough although kenshis moves are hella unsafe

 

[MrProfDrPepper]

at least his moves dont whiff on crouching characters

By the way this is the weirdest argument ever XD aurguing over who's main is worse

 

[NissanZaxima]

Im so salty that my match vs chrisg wasnt streamed! I feel that the way I play him is exactly how cage should be played, I link the match when its up on youtube

I was able to watch it live. You were so close!

 

[EGP Awesomo]

I was able to watch it live. You were so close!

oh haha you saw that choke? I worked him so hard :[ and then I ended up losing to nerves

 

[NY_Jailhouse]

By the way this is the weirdest argument ever XD aurguing over who's main is worse

not maining him, i just like him and hes fun when you can actually get him to work. cassie is pretty boring honestly

 

[NissanZaxima]

not maining him, i just like him and hes fun when you can actually get him to work. cassie is pretty boring honestly

From how you are describing him it sure doesn't sound like fun for you.

 

[NY_Jailhouse]

He's got style and his combos are fun

 

[NissanZaxima]

So you just have bad fundamentals then I'm assuming?

 

[EGP Awesomo]

Johnny is a solid choice for top 5

 

[NY_Jailhouse]

No, his incredibly stubby normals, some of which are bugged so that you can duck them, combines with f3 being so bad on block combined with not having a low starter makes it very hard to get in and open people who know how to block/mash d1 up

 

[NY_Jailhouse]

Top 5? How? Erron black, Cassie, quan chi, kung jin, scorpion, sub zero are all clearly better, just off the top of my head imo

 

[Wrath0594]

Johnny is a solid choice for top 5

Yeah, I'm not guna say he's horribad, but that's just crazy talk.

 

[EGP Awesomo]

I'm dead serious, when someone who knows johnny puts all his tools to work you feel pretty helpless, his tools beat out like 95% of the cast, so far the only characters that make me think "this is a booty match up" is cyber kano, gm sub(but that's only because clone is broke) and maybe raiden(Thunder God)