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thatdemoguy

thatdemoguy

Noob

Help me out here guys. I know theres things I need to work on. Throw breaks and landing my juggles. Also gotta start ending things with nut punch more consistently.

Im the Stunt Double player btw.
 
Wrath0594

Wrath0594

Steam profile: 76561198102032134
If anyone hasn't seen it- be sure to check out the Mimic Cancelling Tech thread a little bit down the Johnny page. Gives Stunt Double a pretty safe way to pressure and get mimics out, not to mention confirm actual mids like f3 into safe full combos in the corner.
 
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Wrath0594

Wrath0594

Steam profile: 76561198102032134
NissanZaxima said:
Tempest Kung Lao will be a big problem once people get over this 50/50 obsession with the game.
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Pretty sure he'll be a problem for everyone since his spin is the only move that will get reversal punishes on a lot of things in the game. Good thing all the KL players are too busy with Buzzsaw mixups or something.
 
Wrath0594

Wrath0594

Steam profile: 76561198102032134
xGunShow said:
Was messing with his Stunt Double variation the other night. The mimic cancels and mimic moves seem to work well for continued pressure and it gets even better in the corner since it becomes easier to confirm into nut punch. Knowing that the mimic shadow kick and mimic rising punch are PLUS on block changes his game a ton. He gets a pretty good 50/50 in the corner as well. Here's an online set to get an idea:
@Mikemetroid
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Damn solid play! Mimic cancelling, clone shadow kick pressure on block, corner mixups, optimal bnb's. Showed off some really good stuff.
 
Rude

Rude

You will serve me in The Netherrealm
So, I'm not sure how bad or good Johnny is. A List seems hella powerful if he has constant pressure that can't easily be poked out of.

I'd love to play some Cages. For barely adequate Cyber Kano experience, feel free to add jshipp39 on PSN.

Question: Does Johnny still say, "Hoooooo?"
 
Joshkazkab

Joshkazkab

I am the Protector of Russia's Skies!
Im too lazy to turn on my ps4 so add me. Don't consider myself the greatest or even that good, but I should be decent enough to give you some matchup experience.

PSN: Kazkab
 
Epy69zSmallBoys

Epy69zSmallBoys

No respect for Kung Jin
Rude said:
So, I'm not sure how bad or good Johnny is. A List seems hella powerful if he has constant pressure that can't easily be poked out of.

I'd love to play some Cages. For barely adequate Cyber Kano experience, feel free to add jshipp39 on PSN.

Question: Does Johnny still say, "Hoooooo?"
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add me, name under profile pic PSN
 
lionheart21

lionheart21

Its Game Over, Man
xGunShow said:
Was messing with his Stunt Double variation the other night. The mimic cancels and mimic moves seem to work well for continued pressure and it gets even better in the corner since it becomes easier to confirm into nut punch. Knowing that the mimic shadow kick and mimic rising punch are PLUS on block changes his game a ton. He gets a pretty good 50/50 in the corner as well. Here's an online set to get an idea:
@Mikemetroid
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Man, you just got my interest in Cage back with this. Very nice.

I just gotta get those F3 [4] run cancels down.
 
Gankedddx

Gankedddx

Noob
Joshkazkab said:
Yo, Fuck Thunder God Raiden.

It's definitely a match up you need to be 100% on point to not get demolished because everything he does leads into some insane bullshit.
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This x1000. I played my first legitimate TG Raiden on ranked last night and struggled. Was able to win a round, but his pressure is unbelievable.

Rude said:
So, I'm not sure how bad or good Johnny is. A List seems hella powerful if he has constant pressure that can't easily be poked out of.

I'd love to play some Cages. For barely adequate Cyber Kano experience, feel free to add jshipp39 on PSN.

Question: Does Johnny still say, "Hoooooo?"
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He doesn't say "Hooooo" anymore for Nut Punch :(.
 
Gankedddx

Gankedddx

Noob
thatdemoguy said:

Help me out here guys. I know theres things I need to work on. Throw breaks and landing my juggles. Also gotta start ending things with nut punch more consistently.

Im the Stunt Double player btw.
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The fact that people still save meter for x-ray is funny to me, just a note.

It seems like you let him have the upper edge on pressure throughout the majority of the matches. I understand that you need to activate the stunt doubles at a safe distance, but still, you should be matching pressure to keep them on edge. Work on some stuff offline pressure/string wise until you feel comfortable, then bring it back online and see how you fare.
 
crosstalk

crosstalk

Kombatant
Hey what's his frame advantage/disadvantage after run canceling 121 or f34 in A-List? Couldn't find it in the thread - has anyone tested?
 
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crosstalk

crosstalk

Kombatant
I was messing around against Cassie's reversal flipkick (which comes out in 5f). I was able to stuff her pretty consistently with f34rc 121. I couldn't do it with 121rc 121 though. Not even 121rc d1 would stuff flipkick but it would trade sometimes. He must be somewhere around +5 or more if the f34rc is done perfectly? I was able to stuff her with another f3 after f34rc as well. The 121rc not totally sure, maybe only +2. I might be totally screwing this up too so I don't know haha. Someone with much better execution than I can fare better I'm sure.

EDIT: Actually sometimes 121rc d1 would stuff flipkick. It's a lot harder to do than f34rc. f34rc seems pretty consistent with the followup. Also I tested this on the PC version so the frame data might be totally wrong for me right now haha.
 
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RM AtK!

RM AtK!

aka - RM_AtK !
crosstalk said:
I was messing around against Cassie's reversal flipkick (which comes out in 5f). I was able to stuff her pretty consistently with f34rc 121. I couldn't do it with 121rc 121 though. Not even 121rc d1 would stuff flipkick but it would trade sometimes. He must be somewhere around +5 or more if the f34rc is done perfectly? I was able to stuff her with another f3 after f34rc as well. The 121rc not totally sure, maybe only +2. I might be totally screwing this up too so I don't know haha. Someone with much better execution than I can fare better I'm sure.

EDIT: Actually sometimes 121rc d1 would stuff flipkick. It's a lot harder to do than f34rc. f34rc seems pretty consistent with the followup. Also I tested this on the PC version so the frame data might be totally wrong for me right now haha.
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i usually stuff 1-2 armor wakeups with 113
 
Epy69zSmallBoys

Epy69zSmallBoys

No respect for Kung Jin
How are you guys fighting Lui Kang? He's kicking my freaking ass, I can't figure out how to punish his stuff and he seem so safe
 
phantomxxlord

phantomxxlord

Noob
Rude said:
So, I'm not sure how bad or good Johnny is. A List seems hella powerful if he has constant pressure that can't easily be poked out of.

I'd love to play some Cages. For barely adequate Cyber Kano experience, feel free to add jshipp39 on PSN.

Question: Does Johnny still say, "Hoooooo?"
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I'll play you, I'll send you an invite if I see you online.
 
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