Because we have people that dont really explore the character and look for cheap 50/50 options into big damage to cover for lack of solid play.F3 is + ON BLOCK. You get to do d4 and f2 FOR FREE. Why is the bill being sold that f3 is his horrible move when it's near broke?
Yo, Fuck Thunder God Raiden.I'm dead serious, when someone who knows johnny puts all his tools to work you feel pretty helpless, his tools beat out like 95% of the cast, so far the only characters that make me think "this is a booty match up" is cyber kano, gm sub(but that's only because clone is broke) and maybe raiden(Thunder God)
ya man, I played @Chaosphere at nwm, and althought I won in tourney went super even(maybe even in his favor I dont remember) raiden does what he wants if you slip up on your pressure due to having a 5f starter (motherfucker gets to start pressure on you if he blocks your f24 for free)Yo, Fuck Thunder God Raiden.
It's definitely a match up you need to be 100% on point to not get demolished because everything he does leads into some insane bullshit.
It was in my favor, but either way im not sure what people are supposed to do about a 5 frame mid combo starter that's safe on block.ya man, I played @Chaosphere at nwm, and althought I won in tourney went super even(maybe even in his favor I dont remember) raiden does what he wants if you slip up on your pressure due to having a 5f starter (motherfucker gets to start pressure on you if he blocks your f24 for free)
Indeed I did. That match was the final nail in the coffin where I was like "Ok im switching to A List for sure now" lol I was the guy who was asking you some questions about the special move cancelling and such.oh haha you saw that choke? I worked him so hard :[ and then I ended up losing to nerves
Didn't you say you had an easier way to cancel?ya man, I played @Chaosphere at nwm, and althought I won in tourney went super even(maybe even in his favor I dont remember) raiden does what he wants if you slip up on your pressure due to having a 5f starter (motherfucker gets to start pressure on you if he blocks your f24 for free)
yessir, but its trickier to do with shadowkick than with f34 and 121. It still works but timing is abit different and I didnt practice it for nwm just because I didnt wanna try anything I wasnt 100% comfortable with doing in tournament (my bnb is usually f24 12 rc 12 but I opted for f24 d1 f3 just because its much easier to do)Didn't you say you had an easier way to cancel?
You guys talk about his rushdown but nobody talks about his zoning and his ability to shut down zoning! His fireball has crazy recovery(its able to outzone a good portion of the cast) and his ex shadow kick is safe on block so Its a really good tool for getting in and getting his offense started. Hes top in my opinion because he has the tools to deal with everyone and because his offense is so good you dont ever have trouble shutting people down once you get in (quan chi is a good example, you win mid screen and upclose, full screen quan wins but hes so slow and has no armor that once you get in his face hes done)D4 is definitely one of his best tools, its insane to mix it with f24!
If they have like, 30% of health left after a np or if you get in, its pretty much over if you have meter, f24xxexFB D4~F3[4]rc~333xxnp/sk/sf! His rush down is really solid, i dont know about the top 5 tho.
I kinda love the matchup, using the fireballs like that makes me really have hope for this game. It's tons of funGM SZ is such a nightmare matchup. Good stuff
using forceballs and shadowsI haven't seen the vid yet (at work) how are you getting around the ice clone pressure (assuming you don't have meter to armor through)?
Agreed. Meant to say a better mix up game in the corner. Definitely not a true 50/50 though.mimic uppercut at least is definitely not +, or if it is its by like 1. its probably just zero. the shadow kick is though i think.
also i really dont think you can consider any of the mixups that johnny does have as a true 50/50. you mean 113 vs 11, f24? really doesnt count to me
Nice play regardless, btw