What this guy said is true.Glitch jabs are easy to counter. Period. They work in some scenarios but thats it.
The only character who has advantage of it is Kabal and even then there are waaaay to many options to stop it.
Sorry, i dont think it should be banned or that its broken.
Hanzo come on son. You can't be serious right now. You say step our game up when you have relaunchers and corner inf banned. If anything, the glitch jab is actually worse. This dominates the game much more than launchers and corner infs. It's clear that it's a problem. I've played marv back when I was active and it still was a problem. I've been complaining about this back then. How did CD pass the test when he loss to Marvin? CD still has never had to deal with this before, at least from what I know. Even you asked why CD was sweeping so much, that was because he didn't know what else to do.What this guy said is true.
I know im not from over there soI might not have the rights to voive opinion but... Ppl have to STEP UP your game.
I will point it as simple math BUT BEFORE I WILL ASK FORGIVENESS IFTHIS POST OFFENDS ANYONE, ITS NOTMY INTENTION:
MIGB was at NEC right? He did the GJ right? Who won? Who were the top 2 players? Who of the GJ spammer placed high there?
Thing is that Marv and CD KNOWS how to stop that shit, you ppl should know too how. You ppl think that someone willwin against them just GJ?
If they karajab all their jabs then fine, they are top players, have the skill to press Blk + down/back at EVERY jab they throw out and so ppl SHOULD YOU DO TOO.
There is a sad truth after this: UMK3 has some BS that ruin the game BUT... That BS can be "treated".
Im not comparing but if you spend most of the round here jus GJ and standing there, you are losing the fight.
If you have a life lead, why worry about the fool that is doing those GJ?
In Dominican Republic they pklay MKT n64 wich is a far more broken game than UMK3 and the jabs are DEADLIER... Watch ANY vid from there. tell me that they stand there foreverand win... They just dont. Thereareways around them.
As for what we have banned here: cornerjab inf and relaunchers, is cause they "stop" the game for the other player. there is no breaker, counter, escape of it. If someone spin dashed you in the corner you have nooption but throw the controller/spit at the stick (lol jk).
And relaunchers: They are tooooo easy and can be done from one corner to another with no skill at all so NO. Not here please.
Still a matter of preferences. I can play just fine with relauncher and corner infs, the thing is that the person I willplay again is the one that will get upset, not me.
@Check: I love you man and no homo, but as a brother, but playing UMK3 WITHOUTH throws just make Kabal more invincible than he is and helps characterslike NW that have totap twice to get a SS in a runjab pressure withouth fear of getting thrown. Also GJ are a joke withouth throws.
Back on topic:
Watch what this guy does at 00:20 to stop GJ:
Its a RISKY gamble there, but it STOPS them all the time and makes them eat chip dmg. Sure they can bait your jump and die (liek it happens in that same vid) but there are tactics.
Fire a projectile full screen etc.
And again the most important aspect: IF YOU HAVE A LIFE LEAD OVER THE ONE THAT IS GJ,JUST LET HIM BE AND LOOK LIKE A RETARDED KID JABBIN AT THE AIR.
Watch this match of me against RZP, specially round 2 (match starts at 06:02,final match of a 5 vs 5 tourney and we were the last member of each team so imagine the pressure):
I KNOW that I will NOT win if I kept spamming GJ after the throw at 06:59 (wich was a GJ btw lol) look at 07:02 how he stops it.
Oh BTW thats UMK3 XBLA this is a crowd take for better wieving of the sticks and hand motions (and drunk ppl) lol
Also Iwilllike topoint out this:
This is the real deal, I dont like that much the "im playing for fun so I will not bother to learn/win etc"
Sorry if this agains offends anyone but UMK3 at HIGH level is a NIGHTMARE so you have the option, tobe playing casual or to actually LEVEL UP and put your skills to test and see what you ppl got.
Marv and CD they passed that test long ago.
Can you guys too?
Or better yet:
DO YOU REALLY WANT A PIECE OF THE CAKE?
Love you all (specially Tim, Scheisse, Check and Ded and no homo) and sorry for the wall of text.
easier:Hanzo come on son. You can't be serious right now. You say step our game up when you have relaunchers and corner if banned. If anything, the glitch jab is actually worse.
CD is fro Dominican Republic, if he played MKT there he should have faced that. I DIDNT asked why he sweeped that much I said "look how he only sweeps, HE IS RUSTED". Again, Marv from the vids didnt abused the GJ and won, why ppl are complaining?I've played marv back when I was active and it still was a problem. I've been complaining about this back then. How did CD pass the test when he loss to Marvin? CD still has never had to deal with this before, at least from what I know. Even you asked why CD was sweeping so much, that was because he didn't know what else to do.
I'm obviously complaining about it because to me it's not legit. I'm starting to question your experience vs GJ. I don't think anyone in Vene has experienced it the way we have here. I'm not usually one to complain about shit because I can take my L, but man this is just not right. It effects the game so much. Bass won because of this. So you're telling me that without glitch jabs bass would have won SB? HELL TO THE FUCKING NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! CD is all minds games right? That shit dramatically reduced mind games. Most of the cast cannot compete with the top tiers because of this. Actually characters considered to be top tier cannot compete against this. Please tell me what Reptile, Kano, Jade, Liu Kang, Shang, Cyrax, Sektor, Jax, stryker, sindel, classic sub, mileena, ect are gonna do? Some characters have no chance against this glitch. If a game where only 2 chars are used is cool then damn. I know there is a best and worst but the lower tiers cannot compete period. I'm not even surprised by your reaction because everyone who hasn't really experienced it is like this at first.easier:
what can you do once you are relaunched?
what can you do when someone is mashin a button far fromyou?
As I said thats just IMO.
I CAN deal with GJ, but if someone relaunches me It will be teh same if I threw my controller on the floor or enjoy a movie or wathever while teh combo is happening.
imagine MKDC WITHOUT breakers and a valid Flash Inf.
EDIT: Man you are one of the top players there, how is that you are actually complaining about this?
THTB:
If the one using GJ have a life lead then the other player has a lot to do tocathc up.
I actually feel very similar, I'll always play UMK3 and love it as well as every other MK game but I have to admit, I think the whole glitch jabbing and Kara even(at times) is lame, it's like "here I'm going to attack you constantly and you can't do a damn thing about it because you can't counter itJuggs, I applaud what you've written because you're completely right. Unfortunately, it has ruined UMK3 for me. What I'm about to say pains me greatly... UMK3 is ruined for me and I will no longer be playing it... but only running it in tournaments..
UMK3 HD... simply limit to 1 punch then block overrides.... please change it in HD... it's the only hope for UMK3 at this point.
I dont want to offend you DC but that is a "past chapter" here, and yes, ppl complained A LOT here by that, but now ppl have found ways out to win.I'm obviously complaining about it because to me it's not legit. I'm starting to question your experience vs GJ. I don't think anyone in Vene has experienced it the way we have here. I'm not usually one to complain about shit because I can take my L, but man this is just not right. It effects the game so much. Bass won because of this. So you're telling me that without glitch jabs bass would have won SB? HELL TO THE FUCKING NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! CD is all minds games right? That shit dramatically reduced mind games. Most of the cast cannot compete with the top tiers because of this. Actually characters considered to be top tier cannot compete against this. Please tell me what Reptile, Kano, Jade, Liu Kang, Shang, Cyrax, Sektor, Jax, stryker, sindel, classic sub, mileena, ect are gonna do? Some characters have no chance against this glitch. If a game where only 2 chars are used is cool then damn. I know there is a best and worst but the lower tiers cannot compete period. I'm not even surprised by your reaction because everyone who hasn't really experienced it is like this at first.
Easy, but easy answer:Please tell me what Reptile, Kano, Jade, Liu Kang, Shang, Cyrax, Sektor, Jax, stryker, sindel, classic sub, mileena, ect are gonna do?
You should make a video of someone other than Kabal, Human Smoke, Ermac, Kung Lao, Reptile, Jax or Kano dealing with these jabs. Sure, with Human Smoke I can deal with these jabs as I did against Marv. But with this glitch I HAVE to use characters who are good against it. The life lead argument doesn't work well either. If you have life lead, sure, you can just watch your opponent sit there and mash HP's until the timer runs out. But no one is going to do that, and basically lose on purpose. They will just chip you back or wait for an opening and when they get the life lead back, which isn't hard to do when doing the glitch, they will just stand there again doing this.snip
They ont do it all the match cause THEY KNOW taht is NOT going to take them to victory my firend.You should make a video of someone other than Kabal, Human Smoke, Ermac, Kung Lao, Reptile, Jax or Kano dealing with these jabs. Sure, with Human Smoke I can deal with these jabs as I did against Marv. But with this glitch I HAVE to use characters who are good against it. The life lead argument doesn't work well either. If you have life lead, sure, you can just watch your opponent sit there and mash HP's until the timer runs out. But no one is going to do that, and basically lose on purpose. They will just chip you back or wait for an opening and when they get the life lead back, which isn't hard to do when doing the glitch, they will just stand there again doing this.
The videos you've posted, I see them doing the glitch. However, they're not doing them the whole match, or even that often. What happens when both players are glitch jabbing the WHOLE match? Imagine how that would look. It might even be worse in those videos because a lot of people don't even catch it, especially players who don't know what's going on. Also, MKT is much different. The game is much faster and it seems easier to deal with, or at least there's more options available to you to deal with it.
You must not be too familiar with Americans... lol.If both players just stay there jabbing then there is something wrong with them lol
Phi! How are you bro!Hanzo...also, Sub's freeze does not work against GJ's... it gets blocked... I believe the ground freeze doesn't though... not sure...will have to test
We tie them down and beat them with socks filled with bars of soap.right now, the only possible solution is either to fix the game via hack, or to "Soft Ban" the technique... Soft Banning means its not banned, but SEVERELY frowned upon... basically to the point of shaming and humiliating the person who breaks the "honor code" of not using the technique.
This is how they handle Akuma in Japan in Super Turbo. He's not banned, but so frowned upon that people simply do not pick him because of the honor code. How many people would do this, I don't know...
Against, no offense bro but thats "past chapter" here. And again NO ONE and even less in a tourney will spin you 100% of the time you sweep/lk/hk/kara jab/fake duck them.I have to garee here with the majority...USA players dont play that way...they abuse it a lot more than that and also all these matches are MKT...when you play against a GJ-ing kabal who is ready to spin you or rush down you any moment its a different story.
NoDoubt, Its so F-ing simple man...we have to ban it! Do more than 4 jabs midscreen and you're out, star jabs in the corner while someone is still standing and you're out...do a relauncher and you're out....Other wise, this game will probably die with MK9....or at least offline....I would also point out to Rob something-dude...people who know the glitch fest will know exactly what is meant by saying "this shit is banned, play without it, or hit the road." There will be some cheap players who might try to push the boundaries and stuff but they wont last long at all. When is read that Phil is actually out of UMK3 for tourneys, it made me very very sad. If we dont step and put some limitations soon....well NoDoubt said it perfectly!
my dear friend we actually ban the INF but you can do all jabs you want in the corner, rep of 2,single jabs etc.Simon I love you to bro, but you are wrong. If you tell me, and Il quote you here "Do more than 4 jabs midscreen and your out" I will say ok fair enough. And I will proceed to do 4 glitch jabs, release block for a second and do another 4 glitch jabs, and repeat the process. I am still abusing glitch jabs but I am NOT breaking your rule.
Likewise the MKK rule banning the corner inf is also a bad ban, or at least Im not sure they are aware of the repurcussions of such a ban. You say you cannot jab a standing opponent in the corner? Fine. Every single time you put me in the corner I will stand and block...EVERYTIME. Why? Because I know you cant pressure me then. You can run in an auto combo me which I will block and then be able to escape. You can try to sweep me and I will cross up jump you and hit you. Or you can back up and let me out of the corner. The MKK rule effectively kills corner pressure of almost every kind. The corner is nowhere near as dangerous if I know all I have to do is stand up when I get put in the corner and you are not allowed to jab me.
Hey dude when you played, was the whole kara jab and glitch jabbing gig "typical" as it is now in the game where you played? More or less you're saying fight fire with fire?"when you encounter a one trick pony, make it so they cant ride their pony, and itll run away"