Very little representation, I think. Bio is the only one truly going places with him and Doombawkz is one of the few finding truly relevant tech. I personally feel F/T is A tier but I'm not really qualified to speak on it.
The Doombawkz prophecy, you know how this goes by now.
This sounds like a variant of what was happening to me. I'm like "yo is my fightstick faulty? Why aren't my buttons working?" Lol. I had fought a pretty good Lackey about a month ago but it didn't seem like this. This felt fearsome.
Nah man, until the buffs stop a'comin, I'm gonna say he is low tier and loses to everyone.
Bane reborn lolol.
What buffs? lol Honestly when that big patch came out I thought F/T was going to have pages and pages of patch notes, a'la Jacqui or Takeda. Turns out we didn't get much. You think there's anything else in store for him in a future patch?
I can only believe. My legacy of maining community low-tiers that get overbuffed depends on it.
I see that you too were a Bane player
I wasn't a Bane player, no.I see that you too were a Bane player
Was it tha_cool_kid?
At the current moment, Biohazard is our only representative. He also fights characters whom F/T have struggles with (D'Vorah being a big one). I believe with a minor change to solidify the variations and promote their strengths, F/T can easily become viable. I'd say maybe 2 moves need changes, Tuck n charge and Lackey Roll. If you make those moves as good as they made say... Pain and Gain, then yeah I can believe this character can compete up there with the best of them.
If they gave tuck n charge more than 0.5 frames of armor and possibly made it launch, ferra/torr would probably beat Johnny as my #1 char. Possibly speed up d1 in ruthless and vicious to 8f? That's really the only buffs I think they should get at this point for ruthless and vicious. What do you think?
All it needs is to be safe on block. If we have that, then it solves every problem those two variations have.
Are people still saying that about Ruthless? I know the old Ruthless was bad but after the 8/31 patch, he's solid.
Yeah, we have to cancel it at b.12 instead of b.121, but thats good for us because b.12 is neutral on block or something.
I can't speak for Lackey, but yea that's about it with Ruthless. My usual gameplan (a few specific characters withstanding) is usually to end the combo in a full screen push. From there you have to using Ferra to restrict their movements as they try to get back in.
Is ferra toss still +6 when canceled off of b12?
So the goal is to harass them at a distance with Ferra and force them to approach you and when they're close that's when you start PnG pressure until they end up in the corner or back full screen basically?
Yup that's the jist of it. Obviously there are some characters where this is not what you want to be doing(zoners) and you want to be staying up in there face. in Ruthless you can use either 2,f4//2,b4//f3,2(when they are lowish to the ground)\\and b1212 to do this. In Vicious end with the command grab, or any of the previous. These will keep them well inside a range where you and Ferra both are a threat.
What's the mechanics behind that?
