This whole thread of replies reeks of millennial want it without working to explain BS. They call shit on the tier list as though their own personal vision is better. EVEYONE'S VISION IS DIFFERENT, of course it is... If you think that your vision is better, argue your point matchup by matchup as we all did, it's more than welcome. No fucking point crying when we ask the same meticulous level of explanation out of you as we all needed to. An MU won't change because someone calls shit out.. These guys be like "dude this list is smelly eww change this or this MU to suit my belief". Like wut. if you wanna effect change in the MU chart then argue the point MU by MU as we all did when creating the list. The list is not perfect, it will never be perfect, no tier list is ever fucking perfect, but this is the only list that has the opinion and mutual collaboration of multiple (50+) people. You're all very welcome to make it the best list it can be. But cut the crap and just argue your MU with real reasoning,