A community tier list, with contributions from some TYM members

Discussion in 'Injustice 2' started by Marinjuana, May 1, 2018.

  1. Marinjuana

    Marinjuana Up rock incoming, ETA 5 minutes

    Some TYM members contributed to a matchup chart but didn't post it for us to rip on... for shame people, for shame.

    I don't know all the details but @Insomniac FGC organized a community tier list that had contributions from various players, with one or two players contributing to a matchup chart of the character they play. A nice little site was even put together to host the chart and list. https://nrstierlist.com/ The list of who contributed and the overall tier list can be found on the site but I'll just post the matchup chart. It seems like lot of work went in this chart, and I believe it's the most comprehensive matchup chart for Injustice 2 in existence. So shoutout to the efforts of all who contributed, good stuff. That said, like any good matchup chart, there's bound to be some differing opinions. Personally I think a couple characters charts are suspect, but I'd rather hear what TYM thinks. I bet people have major questions such as:

    Why the lack of top 5 Poison Ivy?

    Do the authors of the list know that Flash has no neutral?

    What will @Braindead think of his objectively bottom tier character's placement?

    Hopefully this thread will answer all those questions and more.

    (Upper left is highest tier. As you go down or to the right you go down the tier list.)

    Is there a match up on the chart that you disagree with? Argue your case here:


    Edit: This matchup chart should be updated but Marinjuana is lazy





    Edit: Added the updated chart for easier reading and the matchup disputes forum link.

    New edit: Newer chart
    Last edited: Feb 9, 2019
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  2. Braindead

    Braindead High-functioning Scrub
    Royal Contributor

  3. xKhaoTik

    xKhaoTik Kitana Kahn

    Chirps from those “ivy is top 5” dumbasses lol
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  4. wsj515

    wsj515 I will spit on your tomb

    A lot of Adam matchups are wrong imo.
  5. Espio

    Espio Ask Me About My Kurtis Stryker Agenda
    Lead Moderator

    I think the key thing to remember is everyone isn't going to agree on every match up and a lot of these match ups are the result of compromises and lots of debate. I think the other point is I don't think for the most part the placements are that far outside of the general consensus. I enjoyed taking part in this process.
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  6. neveradestroyer

    neveradestroyer Tier hero... lowest tier amazing player.

    Top 1 Wonder woman?. I am sold. Now seriously!. Swap green arrow place with Wonder woman, Flash to second. Firestorm to third. and Captain Cold is two tiers higher because the buffs. That's all.
  7. God Confirm

    God Confirm We're all from Earthrealm. If not, cool pic brah.

    Brainiac with ten 6-4s his way is an interesting development, I wonder which Brainiac player contributed to this list lol.

    But what do I know I don't even play this game anymore.

    Just posting to say it's really hard to look at this tier list though. You should color code column edges so that the eyes can keep track of it better while scrolling up.
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  8. Second Saint

    Second Saint A man with too many names.

    Coin Flip
    It's crazy to me the amount of up play Harley gets from some people, and I'm glad to not see that reflected here. Her chart's looking grim af, and I'm only seeing a couple things I disagree with, but not entirely. Supes could be 5-5 and Bats could be 6-4. I've gone back and forth on those numbers for a long time.
  9. wsj515

    wsj515 I will spit on your tomb

    I know in Excel you can make it so that either the top row or first column will stay visible as you scroll, something similar here would really help readability.
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  10. Dankster Morgan

    Dankster Morgan savagery is no match for skill

    This is great, I dont know about the accuracy but I could be down with the SZ numbers. Don’t really play much anymore though.
  11. Kotal_Wannabe

    Kotal_Wannabe AKA AndyPandy

    Harley player's have known this for many many months, it usually takes the rest of the community time to catch up, especially when you're considering a character as seldom used as harley. I'm glad that it has finally been reflected in this universal matchup chart.
  12. John_NX

    John_NX Noob

    If wonder woman is the best,then why don't we see her in tournaments?
  13. Cursa

    Cursa Counterpoke with armoured DB2 at all times.

    Freeze panes > Freeze top row/column for those concerned

    I know because I'm at work doing it right now
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  14. Cursa

    Cursa Counterpoke with armoured DB2 at all times.

    Man I can't wait to get home and disagree with all the Bane and Atom MU's
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  15. Cursa

    Cursa Counterpoke with armoured DB2 at all times.

    I see a few I don't like but overall good. Not sure Bane loses to Robin or Scarecrow personally

    Also thinking Grodd V Aquaman is like 3-7 at best
  16. Dankster Morgan

    Dankster Morgan savagery is no match for skill

    Haven’t played Bane or the game in a while, why might he go even with Robin? I also don’t necesarilly think he loses to Scarecrow either though.
  17. Jhonnykiller45

    Jhonnykiller45 Shirai Ryu

    Raiden really is bottom 1 free... No doubt about it.
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  18. PND OmegaK

    PND OmegaK Drunk and Orderly
    Premium Supporter

    PND OmegaK
    I know this was probably pre patch but even then I don't think grodds matchup chart is far from being that bad.
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  19. Thank you for getting the discussion started for us, @Marinjuana! I took note of the advice about the match up chart and updated it such that it's separated by tier. It should be a bit easier to read now. I also took the time to create a character select page so you can view the match ups by character.

    Last edited: May 2, 2018
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  20. Cursa

    Cursa Counterpoke with armoured DB2 at all times.

    Robin has answers to Bane but they're hardly comparable to characters like Fate or Batman.

    Robin can't keep Bane out, and although he outfootsies him heavily, he's still taking a risk of an armoured read. Characters who beat Bane don't even worry about the 50/50 of grab or button

    Also gaps and single hitting/not grab immune wakeups.

    Cutting it short because work, but I don't think it's losing myself

    For Scarecrow, I think saving bar for pushblock is a huge gamechanger since Bane is always build bar in that MU. SC's plus frames are laughed upon in venom and pushblocked otherwise since Bane can save meter effectively and still be dangerous
  21. Cursa

    Cursa Counterpoke with armoured DB2 at all times.

    Ok so question. How does Bane lose to Canary?

    Also would personally say that Atom loses to Beetle, and then most of them I agree with.

    There's a few for both characters I'm kinda on the fence about, like Atrocitus for both, Scarecrow for Atom, or Leonardo for Bane. I don't really see how they're winning/even/losing respectively
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  22. Sage Leviathan

    Sage Leviathan I'm platinum mad!

    Fate beats Enchantress 6-4.
  23. The_Tile

    The_Tile Just a sip, and an overhead, and a low, yeah.

    A few of these FS MUs seem sketchy to me, was this pre patch? There's a few like Adam, Batman and Hellboy that were probably 5-5 pre patch but I'm not sure if they still are after the nerfs. And there's a couple of 6-4s that should maybe be 5-5s.

    I really appreciate the effort that went into this though, something like this is long overdue.
  24. Sazbak

    Sazbak Noob

    This sucks. I always accidentally pick up these SS tier characters so I can't make excuses when I lose.
    First Supergirl and now WoWo...I need to pick up some low tier characters to occasionally be able to claim the moral high ground.
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  25. Cursa

    Cursa Counterpoke with armoured DB2 at all times.

    Moral high ground doesn't seem very high when your face is in the fucking ground all the time from fighting a 13/-4 matchup

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