I hope there are some big differences between Wayne Manor and Wayne Manor (night)..... if the only difference is lighting then I feel like it shouldn't even count as an alternate stageWayne Manor (Night)
and
Joker's Asylum
are the ones missing. CrimsonShadow listed all 15 in his PAX thread.
Joker's Asylum has that Scarecrow transition (at least, I presume that was Joker's Asylum), so there's probably SOME differences. Hopefully different hazards and such.I hope there are some big differences between Wayne Manor and Wayne Manor (night)..... if the only difference is lighting then I feel like it shouldn't even count as an alternate stage
I didn't notice if it was there in Wayne Manor Day, but there's a motorcycle as a stage interaction in Night.I hope there are some big differences between Wayne Manor and Wayne Manor (night)..... if the only difference is lighting then I feel like it shouldn't even count as an alternate stage
Yeah, that's true.24 characters... what a shame.
24 characters... what a shame.
This really. I played UMVC3 and it had like 50 characters. Thats twice what this game had...except HALF the cast was redundant. Oh wow Iron Fist and Felicia are in this game! Oh wait Wolverine is better at his gameplan even if his damage and pressure are lower because he has mixups and longer combos. Oooooh Chun Li is in this game and has great air dash and pressure! Except C. Viper does everything Chun does plus a million other things as well.Ranted about this a few hours ago, don't reckon I'd like to do another paragraph so I'll keep it short.
Quality > Quantity, and I feel a lot better about the cast in this game than the cast of MK9.
That's some really flawed logic here. Your point just centers around character's viability. Fighting games are not just about tier-whoring. Not all people play FGs in order to be the best or win some tournaments. The more characters, the better. ALWAYS. You think when a person who really wants his favourite character always cares about him being viable ? No, he/she just wants him in game. Because he/she likes the character. Doesn't matter why, because of design or his story or just because he acts like a badass. Not all people care about their characters being able to do 100% combos. Please, I would take a game with shit tons of characters over some "everyone is original" game any day. Because I don't f*cking care if they are all original, I like only like 3-4 characters from the game. Now if the roster was bigger, there would be chance that I liked more characters, so PROFIT for me. Comon, MK9 has 32 characters, I really like only like...1 character, really. The game got so boring it's not even funny. Same shit all over and over, I started to use some other characters, learn them a bit, but what happens when there are no one to learn ? Plus, I don't learn everyone, just the characters that I like. Because when there are lots of characters, like in SFxT for example, there are so much to learn, so many characters you can master, so many combinations, the game will keep for you long. And 24 characters, even less than MK9 had ? Comon, man. What's next, new generation fighting games having roster of MK1 ? Give me a break, I'm pretty sure some people play Chun-Li, Felicia, Jill, because they like the character. I don't think someone really likes Vergil or Morrigan as a character. (as a character, not as a boobie shaker soul-fist spamming smexy succubus).This really. I played UMVC3 and it had like 50 characters. Thats twice what this game had...except HALF the cast was redundant. Oh wow Iron Fist and Felicia are in this game! Oh wait Wolverine is better at his gameplan even if his damage and pressure are lower because he has mixups and longer combos. Oooooh Chun Li is in this game and has great air dash and pressure! Except C. Viper does everything Chun does plus a million other things as well.
UMVC3 had a ton of characters but after a roster expands past a certain point it just gets to the point where cast start stepping on each others toes and doing the same jobs as other characters. In such scenarios generally one is clearly more useful than others due to various things like matchups, or mixup options. Usually the redundant character just has ONE tool or something that makes them distinct...often its not good enough to matter. Anyone here play Jill? No? Thats because even though her Cartwheel beat EVERYTHING in the game she was bogged down with a bunch of weird stuff to try and make her distinctive which just made her too difficult to use. Rather than fish for gun spiral resets, cartwheel punishes and mad beast pressure folks would just say fuck it and use some other fast character with strong AA. The game had plenty who were easier with far less risks in their offense.
More doesn't equal good. You often just have characters trying to be unique without trying to be designed to be good above all else. Redundancy and flawed gimmicky playstyles are often the result of oversizing your roster.
IGAU is fine.
Deyrax OVERKILL!That's some really flawed logic here. Your point just centers around character's viability. Fighting games are not just about tier-whoring. Not all people play FGs in order to be the best or win some tournaments. The more characters, the better. ALWAYS. You think when a person who really wants his favourite character always cares about him being viable ? No, he/she just wants him in game. Because he/she likes the character. Doesn't matter why, because of design or his story or just because he acts like a badass. Not all people care about their characters being able to do 100% combos. Please, I would take a game with shit tons of characters over some "everyone is original" game any day.
I believe in Cold Snap!-snip
Just going to leave this here...
Apparently, it is a difficult task for a game with less characters like MK9. How many are viable ? KKK makes me vomit already. 32 "dat original characterz", yet how many are viable ? Sheeva is original, yet she is bottom. Kano, Baraka. Comon man. Having a smaller roster doesn't mean it's gonna be balanced. The same thing will be Injustice, just wait and see. All da 24 "original" characters, yet don't be surprised to see some trio raping entire cast.Im just saying BALANCING the game to make them have a point is a truly difficult task. .
It's ok man, I've just used Vergil and Morri for example cause they're very good characters in the game, top 5 for sure, so my emphasis was on that. Even though I don't know what's so awesome about Vergil, maybe he looks cool and acts like a boss with that Yamato katana, saying "Scum" and "I'm motivated" with those swords, but storywise, I don't get him, he chose to remain in Hell when Dante clearly wanted to save him, where did that get him ? Brainwashed by Mundus and then killed by Dante ? But then again, it's just personal opinion, everyone can like whoever he wants for his own reasons, hell, for example, I like Kano and Johnny Cage, the latter who is considered by some people as garbage and not being able to bring much to story, but man, those stylish shadow kicks and nutpunches, jerkish behaviour, how can you not like that guy is beyond me. So I guess you have your own reasons for liking Vergil as wellDeyrax OVERKILL!
I don't agree on the other stuff though :-D
I personally think that MK9 offers a lot and has some cool characters.
And Vergil (from DMC3 obviously) is my all time favorite game character.
But that's just personal opinion.
AAAaaaarrghghh... *splurts*Even though I don't know what's so awesome about Vergil, maybe he looks cool and acts like a boss with that Yamato katana, saying "Scum" and "I'm motivated" with those swords...