I know how it goes. I just wanted to know if that was true or not (that you wanted the game to look bad)I chose Noob because I felt like it. And what I said is you aren't beating someone who knows how to do block jabs if you can't do them yourself. Play against Kabal with not one single block jab and then come back and tell me how it goes.
Dam right cya all at NEC on umk & 2 if you guys register.The debate is going slightly out of track... UMK3 is a fantastic game no matter who wins and who loses....who does block jabs and who doesn't...I say, lets have some good time at NEC and play UMk3 again....
Who considers me the best in the world? lolJuggernaut who is widely considered the top umk3 player in the USA.
santa clauseWho considers me the best in the world? lol
I don't even know who you are, I assume Bass or Sans. I know you're trolling, but I'd like to state that I'm not the best UMK3 player (as if I had to even state it, lol).Thanks for the memories. Point Proven. Juggernaut is the top umk player of all time.
Yeah, kinda funny if you look at it like that. Shang Tsung is arguably the worst character in the game and he even has an infinite.Man umk3 has so much cheap stuff in it that Stryker who has a cross screen infinet combo is just mid tier.
Casual player alert. I think you're chiming in on the wrong thread if your mindset is like that.
Definitely not Sans/Bass. Dude is from the MKDC days.I don't even know who you are, I assume Bass or Sans.
Sektor's homing missile is really good. It alone, imo, is what makes him better than Cyrax. I do feel, however, that they're pretty close on the tier list. There's some nice set-ups and shenanigans with Cyrax, but all of them are so slow it leaves him open a lot of the time.why is Cyrax considered the worst robot? surely it takes more work with him to win, but he has a lot of more tools than Sektor.
The worst character IMO is probably Chang Tsung and he is the character with the most options.why is Cyrax considered the worst robot? surely it takes more work with him to win, but he has a lot of more tools than Sektor.
No one expects that. In fact, they're more than likely going to do something because they're pressured into doing so. If they sit there and do nothing and just block, you get free rush down pressure as well as chip damage. So the opponent sees this and will try to avoid the pressure and maybe even the missile. Some players time it well and get an auto-combo in that makes the missile whiff. Or they'll sweep at the right time, or do a c.lk. The thing is you're forcing them to do these things. If they get in a habit of sweeping the missile, that's a free teleuppercut. The homing missile is a great tool and I'm surprised I don't see it abused more often. However some people do abuse it wrongly, as in they just spam it and get punished. But it can launch safely in some situations, such as after knockdowns.You cannot just drop a homming missile and expect the opponent to stay put.
Yea, true...idk if I'd say he's under-rated cuz he's probably right about where he belongs, but Sektor at the highest level is a pain in da ass to deal with. His pressure game w/ Missile mix-ups and TU punishing everything can be very formidable when some people use him.....there just aren't many people who find this 3-trick pony very fun to play. We THINK Cyrax is better because of what he has and much more people enjoy the challenge of learning him, but overall Cyrax at highest level doesn't really beat Sektor at highest level, and the majority of their bad MU's are generally the same.No one expects that. In fact, they're more than likely going to do something because they're pressured into doing so. If they sit there and do nothing and just block, you get free rush down pressure as well as chip damage. So the opponent sees this and will try to avoid the pressure and maybe even the missile. Some players time it well and get an auto-combo in that makes the missile whiff. Or they'll sweep at the right time, or do a c.lk. The thing is you're forcing them to do these things. If they get in a habit of sweeping the missile, that's a free teleuppercut. The homing missile is a great tool and I'm surprised I don't see it abused more often. However some people do abuse it wrongly, as in they just spam it and get punished. But it can launch safely in some situations, such as after knockdowns.
I LOL'd so hard at this. You's a DICKHEAD hahahaLet's all just chill out and focus on the real issues at hand. Like how free Lex is and why REO can only win with Kabal. JK, seriously though, this thread was about tier lists right?
FixedMan umk3 has so much cheap stuff in it that Stryker who has a cross screen infinet combo AND A CORNER INFINITE is just mid tier.
I thought you picked noob to "prove a point" on kara jabs? or at least that's what everyone was saying back then, even saying they had spoken with you about it. So, is that why you picked him? to "mock" the game and make it look bad, to show that you don't need specials in it?
This is 100% true. I can verify this cuz he said it TO ME in person at WB6. No internet whisper-down-the-lane, I was there for it. That's about exactly what he said his reason for doing it was.I chose Noob because I felt like it. And what I said is you aren't beating someone who knows how to do block jabs if you can't do them yourself. Play against Kabal with not one single block jab and then come back and tell me how it goes.
Just cuz it's the best version we can find that still allows pad/stick/kb players to all play competitively on the same medium w/ boss-like options and lay-outs. STILL, nothing has been found to be better than Mame aside a cabinet.....but only stick players can play on cabinet.I don't even understand why the UMK3 Juggernauts hack is used for offline tournaments.
Besides being able to select human smoke as your second character in 2 on 2 mode, we mainly switched to the hacked version on Kaillera to make all characters selectable as soon as the game starts (Mileena, Ermac, Sub-Zero) since it doesn't save online.
I always respected you as an OG and trusted your word on UMK3, but that statement made me say "WTF....." I mean I have my own views, but that was just the last thing I expecteed to hear from The Great Lex, Reptile/Kung Lao Pioneerplay it without relying on bullshit jabs, relaunchers, and easy infinites.
I think that might be the best idea I heard yet.....The debate is going slightly out of track... UMK3 is a fantastic game no matter who wins and who loses....who does block jabs and who doesn't...I say, lets have some good time at NEC and play UMk3 again....
lol we're working on it. Shes' one of the characters we are discussing. Haven't you been here the whole time?So where's Jade at currently?
I don't see "NinjaGrinder" anywhere on the list....why you waiting so long to sign up?I know how it goes. I just wanted to know if that was true or not (that you wanted the game to look bad)
Simon's right. Hope most of the UMK3 crew shows up at NEC and have a blast. When is it going to happen, btw?
TBH, that was the intent of the thread. Not to really prove anything, just to get discussions about UMK3 going again.Fuck you guys for making me jones for UMK3 again.
Glitch Jabs destroy Lao even more, you just run against him Gjabbing and he cant throw any crazy dive kicks anymore, the same for the Spin, and it isnt the all good AA ppl say.Thanks Shock for your response (although kinda late). Back when that thread was opened, I was expecting you to say something. It's nice to see you understand. And I can't be happier to read that "I want to bring UMK3 back hardcore and I think NEC will light some fires under people who miss it."
Juggs you have some valid points. But, if you say that in a high level match, no top level player would jump for no reason at Kung Lao, what makes you think a top kung lao player would do an unsafe dive kick? no top player would take this risk:
"If it gets blocked that's 30-40% life gone for what? Attempting to apply pressure or get a ~5% dive kick damage?"
I don't think he's top 3, but I don't see him either beyond top 5
This makes sense to me, maybe we should just listen to Hanzo on this one lolGlitch Jabs destroy Lao even more, you just run against him Gjabbing and he cant throw any crazy dive kicks anymore, the same for the Spin, and it isnt the all good AA ppl say.
He only REALISTICALLY in very high level gets high damage out of scouting a Ninja tltpt, some 1 AA hp and a naked spin, all of this are easily avoidable. Its easier to land a Reptile 100% or BIG damaging combo than a Lao big damage one.
To the online players: Go and try Lao against Marvin, REO, Arion or other good players out there. Tell me how much wins you will get.
Even with his buffs/nerfs in MKT (moving Spin but with 2 hit limit) he sucks compared to the top 10.
And ded: Dont bring back Marcelo, he is godlike and has execution like you, but his opponents arent even mid high level. the day he faces someone of the caliber of these ppl, we can say: he is good.
And dont bash MKT n64, shitty game require more skill and brain than UMK3. Try to win gjabbin on a place there. Lex I love you bro. (ded too)
Man I wish I could ask Marvirrasta where he thinks Lao should be placed, but I'm not even sure he speaks english. Maybe someone could translate one day. From what I've seen in some YouTube videos, he has a mean Lao, and would be a great person to ask.To the online players: Go and try Lao against Marvin, REO, Arion or other good players out there. Tell me how much wins you will get.