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PROTECT WOMEN IN THE FGC!

Vagrant

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And girls, no offence, I love pretty outfits on you as much as the next dude, but protect your integrity and dress modest out if you aren't in a safe space with a safe route home.

Was she dressed like a slut? That tends to attract creeps. This is why I make sure my daughters dress proper before going places. Not worth the risk.

Could it be someone looking for attention crying “rape” victim? This happens more than you think. Try to act professional and wait for evidence before resorting to tracking people down.

P.s. The amount of white knighting for whamens is pretty sad...I’m sure this happens to guys to. #equality
Attitudes like yours are the reason women don't report half the fucked up shit that they deal with.

You're terrible for society and I hope something happens to you where you can no longer spread these kind of ignorant thoughts to other people.

Have a nice day.
 
And your mom is a very wise woman. Bless her heart for teaching you that lesson early. Even if you have to go to the bathroom, take your damn drink inside so you can always watch it.
Even then, there's been cases of other girls drugging a drink on the bathroom counter while the owner was in a bathroom stall. Better off just finishing it off before it leaves your sight or abandoning it and getting a new drink after it's left your sight.
 

Marlow

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  1. Women and men should be able to dress how they'd like.
  2. The amount of provable false claims is roughly considered to be 2%-10%. That doesn't necessarily mean that 90% are valid, but there's likely far fewer false claims than you'd think, and at the very least a claim of assault should be given due attention.
  3. Of course it happens to men too, nobody is saying it doesn't. But it's an issue that affects women at a much higher rate.
The problem is, if you keep bringing up things like questioning the victim's role in their assault, questioning how truthful her claim might be, and falling into whataboutism discussions, it just encourages females to feel either ashamed or that they won't be taken seriously, so then instead of speaking up they stay silent, which is a big problem with these types of cases.

Bottom line, respect women, listen to them, support them.
 

Vslayer

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things like this frustrate me the most because when I see a problem all I can do is thinking about a solution, but there aren't any practical and measurable solutions and my brain doesn't like the concept of not being able to anything about something
The issue is, we can't force people to change their bad behaviour, they need to realize that by themselves. And they need to want to change, so all we can do is shame them and force it to admit it publicly. And other than that, never walk around alone in those events, and always come to someone's aid if they look uncomfortable, and most importantly, speak up!
 
I'm sorry, but I cannot buy into this "Protect the women" deal. I know I may get a lot of hate for this, but before browbeating me, read on:

Women are not some delicate little flowers that need to be protected at all times by us hulking, domineering men.

Women are capable, self sufficient people who don't NEED our protection.

I refuse to be so sexist as to assume any woman will ever need to hide behind me.
Shut up. Men in the Marines and Army get raped. This isn't a women can't fend for themselves thing. No one, not even trained killers by the military can keep their guard up 24/7.

This is a look out for your fellow human being thing.

All these retorts people are making like "men get raped too and no one cares" "don't cosplay Jade" is adding to the problem of why people don't report it. No one should be dealing with this shit. PERIOD.
 

JBeezYBabY

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Even then, there's been cases of other girls drugging a drink on the bathroom counter while the owner was in a bathroom stall. Better off just finishing it off before it leaves your sight or abandoning it and getting a new drink after it's left your sight.
Take your drink to the stall. Thats what i do ALL THE TIME if I have to go pee. Never EEEEEEVER let that drink lose your sight. PERIOD!
 

portent

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Shut up. Men in the Marines and Army get raped. This isn't a women can't fend for themselves thing. No one, not even trained killers by the military can keep their guard up 24/7.

This is a look out for your fellow human being thing.

All these retorts people are making like "men get raped too and no one cares" "don't cosplay Jade" is adding to the problem of why people don't report it. No one should be dealing with this shit. PERIOD.
You apparently didn't read my entire post.

Why don't you try again and we can talk about it at a later time when you fully comprehend what I wrote, and why it's supportive, honest and encouraging.

Please show me one place in that post where I said that I wasn't supportive of women and their rights?
 
tbh, I'm happy that some women raised their voices and accussed those assholes of such actions. Sexual harassment is a minor crime, but forgivable on some people who are responsible and know how to right the wrongdoings. Besides, IMO, sexual harassment is another one of the many psychological games, and kind of a sexual bullying. It's up to anyone who's being sexual harassed to raise the voice to protect himself/herself. This should work to make them forget to even sexual harass anyone.

What I don't like and hate the most is the worst crime. Worst than sexual harassment, and that's the sexual assaulters (rapists), the pedophiles and the murderers. Include the drug poisoning, too.

And I hate those who do those above crimes and just laught it off, and those who protect them and not reveal who it was (or even their real names). Those are bad people, and I don't want them associated with anyone. Protecting them is equivalent to the crime accomplice.

And FGC isn't the only community to have such assholes. It happens everywhere. In clubs, in schools, in national offices, everywhere.

What happened with the girl and the rapist there, the rapist was clearly a bad person, because he was a violent one. Good shit they dealt with him and kicked him out.

I'm glad that we had no victims in after-EVO party.
A lot of times it's a deer in a headlights moment. When someone has it happen it feels surreal like it's a dream and they are in shcok sitting there thinking "did that just happne?" which is why most people don't make a scene as it's happening. By the time the shock wears off enough time has passed it pretty much turns into a he said she said.

I was sexually harassed (assaulted?) back in middle school when a fat kid (another boy) humped my leg and I was in shock. I recovered quickyly and told a teacher and he got in trouble. I moved on and forgot about it, but now as an adult this topic makes me wonder if I was even his first target or if he had done that before and did anyone else speak up or just me?
 

SixPathsOfHate

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Ykes. Just looked through the entire thread. While I am all for catching these monsters and having them confess to their crimes.
We need to realize that this should all be done LEGALLY. Going on social media and throwing out names is how some people's lives get ruined and not all are guilty. As much as I want to believe the victim in these situations I will always listen to both sides because only those people were there and if only one is talking there is more to the situation than is let on.

This doesnt apply to situations like Gllty and those that she has harassed because both sides have been said and there was a conclusion and the truth was revealed. Not every story is like that.

Dont go online and post about how someone may have drugged you or harassed you. Take it up with the legal system first, get everything settled then go screaming online once things have been determined to be 100% true or as close to 100% as possible. This is even more especially true when there are a large number of people who enjoy being the victim and would do vile things like fake deadly illness for sympathy.
 

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The issue is, we can't force people to change their bad behaviour, they need to realize that by themselves. And they need to want to change, so all we can do is shame them and force it to admit it publicly. And other than that, never walk around alone in those events, and always come to someone's aid if they look uncomfortable, and most importantly, speak up!
^this,
what I was think was that these predators know what they are doing is wrong and will say its disgusting and all the stuff. but they d it anyway so it can be impossible to tell who is a predator until its too late.

Also no matter how severe the punishment is making the decision to harass someone is based on an impulse so no matter how harsh the punishment is they will always be able to justify the impulse to outweigh the punishment so I was thinking ways to prevent over punish/setting an example would be more effective. but then I come to the realisation that is borderline impossible otherwise there would have been someone smarter then me fix this stuff already.
 

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Ykes. Just looked through the entire thread. While I am all for catching these monsters and having them confess to their crimes.
We need to realize that this should all be done LEGALLY. Going on social media and throwing out names is how some people's lives get ruined and not all are guilty. As much as I want to believe the victim in these situations I will always listen to both sides because only those people were there and if only one is talking there is more to the situation than is let on.

This doesnt apply to situations like Gllty and those that she has harassed because both sides have been said and there was a conclusion and the truth was revealed. Not every story is like that.

Dont go online and post about how someone may have drugged you or harassed you. Take it up with the legal system first, get everything settled then go screaming online once things have been determined to be 100% true or as close to 100% as possible. This is even more especially true when there are a large number of people who enjoy being the victim and would do vile things like fake deadly illness for sympathy.
If it happened for real you shouldn't need to take legal action as you know it to be true without being confirmed in the court of law, as an accusation is still an accusation even on social media. however I understand what your saying about getting it proven first because we 100% don't want trolls exploiting this and making false accusation for the sake of there amusement or to tarnish someone's career/reputation.
 

JBeezYBabY

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Ykes. Just looked through the entire thread. While I am all for catching these monsters and having them confess to their crimes.
We need to realize that this should all be done LEGALLY. Going on social media and throwing out names is how some people's lives get ruined and not all are guilty. As much as I want to believe the victim in these situations I will always listen to both sides because only those people were there and if only one is talking there is more to the situation than is let on.

This doesnt apply to situations like Gllty and those that she has harassed because both sides have been said and there was a conclusion and the truth was revealed. Not every story is like that.

Dont go online and post about how someone may have drugged you or harassed you. Take it up with the legal system first, get everything settled then go screaming online once things have been determined to be 100% true or as close to 100% as possible. This is even more especially true when there are a large number of people who enjoy being the victim and would do vile things like fake deadly illness for sympathy.
I get it and you're right for the most part. But these women took the time to gather up stories and information before letting the names go which is why this is being said now. You should gather up all the facts before speaking on serious allegations such as this. Absolutely. You should listen to both sides. Absolutely. But sometimes the best thing is bringing it to light before even going to court because the system is so fucking flawed as it is, you need other ways to gather information and social media is a good outlet to do that. Once you share your story, it makes it comfortable for others to come out and be like, "Hey, this actually happened to me too by the same person. Let's talk about it." So I don't fault the ladies for finally speaking about it on social media before going to the police. BTW some actually have and nothing has happened because one of them told ME personally about it. FYI.
 

SixPathsOfHate

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If it happened for real you wont need to take legal action as you know it to be true without being confirmed in the court of law, as an accusation is still an accusation even on social media. however I understand what your saying about getting it proven first because we 100% don't want trolls exploiting this and making false accusation for the sake of there amusement or to tarnish someone's career/reputation.
Lives have been ruined over accusations and I wish people would stop flocking to the internet to tell about it. As for what I said about both sides.
I firmly stand by that because knowing both sides is crucial. What were the variables involved? Were the both parties drinking? If so that needs to be factored in as well. Did the victim initiate it then realize it not for them and it took more than 1 no? Things like that need to be taken into consideration and that cant be done when you have a mob of angry keyboard warriors coming after you online and irl.
 
Something that complicates matters is accidantal touching. I've had it where I try walking by someone in a crowded hallways and my hand ends up brushing against their butt and I'm thinking "shit now they probably think I'm a creep". I mean it's not like you can just tell them it was an accident, they'll think you're denying it.

Iv had a gun pulled on me by one of these incel beta cucks for standing up for a woman. People are fucking crazy
Yeah I remember what was it? Last year? When there was debates going on about street harassment and people saying women just need to tell the guy no and he'll stop following them. Then a woman in New York told a guy no who was following her and asking her to date him so he pulls out a knife and kills her.

There's a saying that men are scared of women laughing at them, women are scared of men killing them.

Yo this is suuuuper trash

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Personally I'd have used this pic.

 

SixPathsOfHate

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I get it and you're right for the most part. But these women took the time to gather up stories and information before letting the names go which is why this is being said now. You should gather up all the facts before speaking on serious allegations such as this. Absolutely. You should listen to both sides. Absolutely. But sometimes the best thing is bringing it to light before even going to court because the system is so fucking flawed as it is, you need other ways to gather information and social media is a good outlet to do that. Once you share your story, it makes it comfortable for others to come out and be like, "Hey, this actually happened to me too by the same person. Let's talk about it." So I don't fault the ladies for finally speaking about it on social media before going to the police. BTW some actually have and nothing has happened because one of them told ME personally about it. FYI.
I understand but whenever I hear the, "legal system is flawed" argument I have to ask. Do you have a better solution that will fair for both parties cause I know I dont and most wont. Evidence is key and sometimes harassment is hard to get evidence forward when 1 is denying and 1 is accusing. People can have their #MeToo movements but remember that its the place to discuss, try and get through their issues, and come out a feeling better than they were before the incidents but its not the place to call out names.
 

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Lives have been ruined over accusations and I wish people would stop flocking to the internet to tell about it. As for what I said about both sides.
I firmly stand by that because knowing both sides is crucial. What were the variables involved? Were the both parties drinking? If so that needs to be factored in as well. Did the victim initiate it then realize it not for them and it took more than 1 no? Things like that need to be taken into consideration and that cant be done when you have a mob of angry keyboard warriors coming after you online and irl.
I agree where these factors are important but unfortunately the world we live in a no privacy so no matter if any accusation has substance or not, everyone the accused know will probably know about the situation and have a opinion before they have consulted with them, so its better to think about what you can do and not what has been done.
 

SixPathsOfHate

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I agree where these factors are important but unfortunately the world we live in a no privacy so no matter if any accusation has substance or not, everyone the accused know will probably know about the situation and have a opinion before they have consulted with them, so its better to think about what you can do and not what has been done.
Its one of the reasons I cant get on any of these movements because its the perfect breeding ground for all sorts of shit to get people's lives ruined. I will consistently be a bystander for the sake of my own sanity and safety.
 

JBeezYBabY

Mr. Righteous
I understand but whenever I hear the, "legal system is flawed" argument I have to ask. Do you have a better solution that will fair for both parties cause I know I dont and most wont. Evidence is key and sometimes harassment is hard to get evidence forward when 1 is denying and 1 is accusing. People can have their #MeToo movements but remember that its the place to discuss, try and get through their issues, and come out a feeling better than they were before the incidents but its not the place to call out names.
If you dont know through personal experience then you will never understand that argument. So we will just dead that right now. And yes, evidence is key. Multiple people coming out with their stories is a start. But you need to really ask why they wait so long to finally speak. Because they get shamed, they get threatened, they get scrutinized, and they get further harassed by the other party's people aka fans. I've seen this play out in the Smash Community too where that boy Captain Zach admitting to having a secret relationship with Aly who is a well known well GROWN Smash player while he was 16. And what did people do? Aly's fans gave this kid death threats....even AFTER Aly got caught with evidence.

This is what victims go through. Its so ass backwards its horrible.
 

SixPathsOfHate

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Very few people actually get their lives ruined over false accusations.
There are people who go to jail for years of their life because of accusations. Im not even saying it happens often but this is people's lives we are talking about. I couldnt imagine having that kind of weight on my shoulders. Not only that but with social media being the blood sucking worm that it is, those people who do get falsely accused dont return to their normal lives and will forever be scarred. Look at the VA for Broly, Vic.
 
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Its one of the reasons I cant get on any of these movements because its the perfect breeding ground for all sorts of shit to get people's lives ruined. I will consistently be a bystander for the sake of my own sanity and safety.
Yeah I never get involved in anything serious because of how influential it can be on peoples and they usually go off from a emotional mob mentality which is usually fired as a shotgun and not at the point of the movement.
also if there was a accusation made public and it was proven to be false or it was complicated, for example the victim had consensual sex and changed there mind and accused them of rape, they should have to publicly apologise and clear there name and face criminal punishment as it is illegal to lie in court and illegal make false accusation such as this.
 

SixPathsOfHate

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If you dont know through personal experience then you will never understand that argument. So we will just dead that right now. And yes, evidence is key. Multiple people coming out with their stories is a start. But you need to really ask why they wait so long to finally speak. Because they get shamed, they get threatened, they get scrutinized, and they get further harassed by the other party's people aka fans. I've seen this play out in the Smash Community too where that boy Captain Zach admitting to having a secret relationship with Aly who is a well known well GROWN Smash player while he was 16. And what did people do? Aly's fans gave this kid death threats....even AFTER Aly got caught with evidence.

This is what victims go through. Its so ass backwards its horrible.
Yea. I understand that it is something that I will never understand unless I have personal experience with it. Its just how when I heard about these females coming out about R Kelly doing things to them when some of them went with him willingly and then later said that wasnt the case or Bill Cosby and how long it took for some of these women to come out and say what happened to them. Its just something I cant process because I have never had that way of thinking.
 

SixPathsOfHate

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Yeah I never get involved in anything serious because of how influential it can be on peoples and they usually go off from a emotional mob mentality which is usually fired as a shotgun and not at the point of the movement.
also if there was a accusation made public and it was proven to be false or it was complicated, for example the victim had consensual sex and changed there mind and accused them of rape, they should have to publicly apologise and clear there name and face criminal punishment as it is illegal to lie in court and illegal make false accusation such as this.
The idea of the scandal is still enough to get you fired from a job although if something like that were to be implemented then the person could at least go back to living a better life.