This will honestly be such a hype killer for me. DS1 was mechanically perfect to me, I honestly feel that DS3 is clunkier and more shallow in comparison. I want to be dead angling, fake casting pyromancey, etc.I'd feel like updating the controls would be a mistake. Obviously it wouldn't bother those new to the series but to people who've played the game before it would definitely feel like something is off. The clunky gameplay is essential to DS1 IMO, I don't really want it to feel like DS3. I'm not really sure what to expect though since From has never done an actual remaster before as far as I know.
I totally disagree, maybe its due to the amount of hours spent in that game, but 99% of the controls are very comfortable and fit like a glove to me. DS3 added a few QoL improvements, but a lot of the general engine/combat system changes really watered the game down.Thing is, if you go back and play the game today it feels last gen. The controls feel unreasonably clunky by today's standards when compared with BB or DS3.
It has to be a complicated decision whether to update them or not for the developer.
It'd be optimized obviously. FROMsoft just sucks at optimization. This is confirmed to be rebuilt on top of the 3/Bloodborne engine though.How could it be rebuilt like Bloodborne/Dark Souls 3 and still be 60fps though? Sure its not just a reskin?
I'm thinking its the original game with 'polish', like remasters usually tend to be.
So does that mean its just going to be a "reskinned" version of DS3?It'd be optimized obviously. FROMsoft just sucks at optimization. This is confirmed to be rebuilt on top of the 3/Bloodborne engine though.
They also said they won't re-use DkS3 assets. I don't fucking know.So does that mean its just going to be a "reskinned" version of DS3?
Agreed. I don't really want them to touch anything, it seems like they're improving on things that drastically needed improving like the servers and FPS which is good. Just don't touch the gameplay. I also wouldn't mind them touching up areas like Lost Izalith to make them less annoying and shitty.This will honestly be such a hype killer for me. DS1 was mechanically perfect to me, I honestly feel that DS3 is clunkier and more shallow in comparison. I want to be dead angling, fake casting pyromancey, etc.
Well it’s on the DS3 engine, so it’s probably DS1 played like DS3. That’s what I’m guessing at least.Agreed. I don't really want them to touch anything, it seems like they're improving on things that drastically needed improving like the servers and FPS which is good. Just don't touch the gameplay. I also wouldn't mind them touching up areas like Lost Izalith to make them less annoying and shitty.
Also yeah, I like DS3 but something about it is so unsatisfying to me. Would be really disappointed if they adjust it to be more like DS3.
I'm curious, I know you're a huge fan of the series so how would you feel about that? I'd personally be disappointed if this is the case.Well it’s on the DS3 engine, so it’s probably DS1 played like DS3. That’s what I’m guessing at least.
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Not really sure honestly. In theory I wouldn’t really mind it because some of the movement is awkward in the first Dark Souls, especially in relation to rolling. Basically, I never had a complaint with Dark Souls 3’s movements or mechanics, but HAVE complained about Dark Souls 1.I'm curious, I know you're a huge fan of the series so how would you feel about that? I'd personally be disappointed if this is the case.
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At the time of his post that was the information we had available. The initial press release indicated this was the case back in January. In January this was a factual statement. You can't be criticizing January statements in April, man.Might wanna check your sources. Its the same game with updated subtle animations and more importantly lighting. A far cry from "bloodborne/ds3 'engine'" to be sure.
*note* - before someone comes at me with "but its on the dark souls 3 engine tho!" and wants to waste time arguing for 3 posts about it save yourself the trouble. I know all the Soulsborne games run on the same engine.
Not sure where the information came from, but we were all under that impression at the time. Could have been overzealous speculation from the media. Doesn't matter. We were all kind of under that impression at the time.I'd bother to ask you to get the information that says what you're saying there, but its not anywhere in the January 11th press release or the listing on the bandai namco site.
Honestly I wasn't criticizing, that would imply there's still an argument to be made when its clear I was right from the start. (off topic)
Anyway long story short - Remake != Remaster and what a few people in here were trying to tell me back then was implying the game was being remade. I challenged that because the only "factual" things I found were power phrases like '4k resolution' and 'stunning high definition visuals'.
All you had to do was read the 60fps and you know anything about "bloodborne/dark souls 3" visuals is out the window.
I agree, even if they weren't going to add any new areas, items, controls or balance the graphics really don't look objectively better. Some stuff looks better, some looks worse.Remaster looks worse than the original lol
Not going to buy this, seems lazy. Colours look washed out, graphical quality as a whole is only vaguely improved, it looks like it's lost the most important thing of #1 which was its vibe, and not updated any of the lesser aspects gameplay wise. I'd understand if this was the first PC version of the game and we wanted a perfectly accurate one in preservation, however we've already got that, so if you're going to re-release, it is time to update some of the flaws this game has.
Ah well, the fanboys will still blindly throw money to From for whatever they serve up and I'm sure that's what they are banking on here. For the average Souls fan though I think this is a pass.
Yeah I hadn't seen footage till recently, I don't know what people could have been seeing in this to be feeling that this is of much higher quality, but I'm with you, definitely not seeing it myself.
I mean it’s for sure underwhelming. I figured it was going to be like this once I saw the first footage about a month ago. Prominent Dark Souls players like Peeve were arguing with me saying it’s a big difference and that the PS4 and XB1 versions would be way different... but it seems I was right afterall.
Still going to get it for PvP purposes. To both play with friends who I never got to play it with and invade all the new plebs. But I would not at all fault anyone who passes on this. Seems incredibly lazy and disappointing, and in a sense disrespectful to the masterpiece. I’d say if you have little interest in PvP and already played the original, probably best to skip this one.
That said, won’t know 100% my opinion on this until I play it.
I'm a big Souls fan myself, and I was planning to buy this, but I guess I was expecting something a little more than the minimum. I'd have been happy with significantly better graphics and no gameplay changes, or just this semi-better graphics with gameplay updates, but I'm not so rabid for them that I'll pay $40 USD for what seems to be essentially nothing.I agree, even if they weren't going to add any new areas, items, controls or balance the graphics really don't look objectively better. Some stuff looks better, some looks worse.
Also when I think of remastered, I think of addressing notable gameplay flaws if nothing else.
I was originally excited and granted I had perhaps too high of expectations thinking it would be more like how Scholar of the First sin was, but there's not enough incentive to get me to buy it again with the minimal effort/changes involved.