Street Fighter V General Discussion

[FL Rushdown]

Damn guys. This Urien from Taiwan named RB just followed me on Twitter and said I’m good. Anyone know who he is? Never heard of him...

 

[FL Rushdown]

The Cammy thing is mind boggling. Prior to the patch I was tinkering with messing with her some, I find her neutral super fun to play, but after that patch.. ugh. No damn chance. Not even jumping on that boat.

There seem to have been some really decent changes, mixed with some weird ones. I'm partially on the outside looking in because I barely play and don't know the state of things right now in any real detail.. but the consensus is that Vega didn't get what he needed in any shape or form. Abi was probably hit too hard*. Rashid was probably deleted from the game*... And so on. My man Urien lost some shit and had his already kinda rare, vt2 nerfed.. and I'm not gonna lie, I'm extremely salty about that st.lk tic. I love me some throws. But I can't speak for how he'll come out because, well, fuck if I know.

I dunno man, I'm happy in some ways and disappointed and confused in others.

Can anyone here tell me why an Alex players would want to cancel Lariat? I'm not being a smart-ass, Im literally asking. To my extremely limited knowledge I can't work out what on Earth that change is meant to accomplish. More options are more options. Just seems sorta weird?

As to dlc, I don't mind the costumes that drop so often, minus the fact that they are all for this little ass group of characters and everyone else is left out.. oh and a lot of the costumes are insultingly lazy. Costume packs should be a thing if you choose that route. I like costumes. In IV, through sales, I bought almost every pack over time.

Oh well. At least Nash has some interesting new stuff.

General consensus among actual good uriens in the group chat is that he’s buffed, significantly. Don’t listen to the Urien discord they’re whack. The illuminati council is where real shit goes down.

 

[EntropicByDesign]

General consensus among actual good uriens in the group chat is that he’s buffed, significantly. Don’t listen to the Urien discord they’re whack. The illuminati council is where real shit goes down.

Can you explain how he's buffed significantly? Absolutely not doubting you, just curious as to the power spike.

St.lk being +3 is quite nice, but I don't know what else it allows? I'll need the council to enlighten my dumb ass.

Mirror scaling bug.. I didn't even know there was one. Is that why sometimes in extended combos after a mirror a damn cr.fp would do NOTHING?

Meh, I'm getting ahead of myself..please to shine the Illuminati light on this poor mofo.

 

[EntropicByDesign]

I have decided I'm going to pocket Alex, Blanka or Fang, once I am comfy enough on Urien to consider other characters anyway.

 

[FL Rushdown]

Can you explain how he's buffed significantly? Absolutely not doubting you, just curious as to the power spike.

St.lk being +3 is quite nice, but I don't know what else it allows? I'll need the council to enlighten my dumb ass.

Mirror scaling bug.. I didn't even know there was one. Is that why sometimes in extended combos after a mirror a damn cr.fp would do NOTHING?

Meh, I'm getting ahead of myself..please to shine the Illuminati light on this poor mofo.

1st and foremost we got headbutt loops back in the game, which is not really a big buff since they’re rare but god damn is it an improvement to his fun factor.

St hp pushing back less makes a few things easier, point blank st hp into walk cr hp got easier and st hp as a neutral button will no longer hit at a range where you can’t combo after. Used to be if you hit them with the tip you couldn’t get dash cr mp and had to just raw tackle.

St lk +3 ob and +4 oh means he has a light that frame traps into a medium, something he’s never had before. Which opens up things like st lk, cr mp counter hit, cr hp combos(crouchers only) and things like st lk ch, cr mp, st lk xx lk tackle which is +3 oh. Before any combo into lk tackle that wasn’t charged hp was +1 at best meaning he’d get mashed on. St lk, cr mk, st lk xx lk tackle is also a -2 ob tackle so Urien now has a safeish blockstring into tackle.

St lk pushback is an auto shimmy now. St lk do nothing into cr hp punishes throw techs easily. St lp still exists as a +2 ob true tick throw as well.

 

[xiskza]

The patch overall is good imo. Could've been better though, but then, there is no SF in history that is amazingly balanced, and overall SF5 is one of the better ones.

 

[Johnny Based Cage]

The patch overall is good imo.

 

[xiskza]

A lot of chars got new fun things to do. And I like the universal changes.

Also I'm pleased with the Abigail nerfs so I'm not bovvered. He's now balanced more correctly where he’s a character that will dump a world of damage into you if he hits you, he just can’t do that, get free oki and then you’re dead.

Cant wait to see what people will do with nu-Zeku. Will be super interesting to check him out.

Cammy can piss off though. So can Akuma and Guile. Both those 3 I feel Capcom wants them to remain top tier forever.

 

[EntropicByDesign]

So, can someone explain what the deal is with Karin these days? I know she got some changes here and there, but it feels like she's just disappeared and I heard Punk was working on different characters and everything.

Just curious.

Also, how is her new VT? Any good?

 

[FL Rushdown]

So, can someone explain what the deal is with Karin these days? I know she got some changes here and there, but it feels like she's just disappeared and I heard Punk was working on different characters and everything.

Just curious.

Also, how is her new VT? Any good?

She sucks, I’m glad she sucks, she always sucked, and I hope she continues to suck and gets nerfed anyways.

 

[EntropicByDesign]

She sucks, I’m glad she sucks, she always sucked, and I hope she continues to suck and gets nerfed anyways.

Wellllll allrighty, lol.

ILL SAVOR THIS

 

[EntropicByDesign]

I bought the Donovan costume.. not really feeling it. I like my suit and scarf. I want Gil.

 

[THTB]

To be fair, the patch made some universal changes that are good. The issue is how they're handling individual character changes. I think the patch is decent.

 

[ILuvFightGames]

To be fair, the patch made some universal changes that are good. The issue is how they're handling individual character changes. I think the patch is decent.

I agree 100% and stated this a few posts above, the patch did a couple things that I think are awesome universally, it added defensive buffs, which made the difference between deciding to defend and offensive attack (counter) and just let the offense run because they mistake took too much damage. And yea, character buffs/nerfs is different, and capcom need to get better at it from my point of view. Even though I'm really bad at reading all that frame data buffs/nerfs things but some character struggles are obvious. But I hear Alex and Fang got better.

 

[CantingSoup]

I don't play Fang but sounds like Alex trial the second player is jumping and I have to time his Lariat. It caused the second player to go into a Crush counter state and I have to juggle them with his Slash Elbow canceling into his CA.

I find it easier to charge D/DB and then do a QCF with charge moves as well. As soon as I peform the Lariat and here that CC I IMMEDIATELY charge DB. I wait till he recovers then do QCF.K then cancel to QCF.P to get his critical art. The issue with getting this perfect is to time it when the second player is being juggled at a certain height after the crush counter and I make sure his Slash connects just where he meets Alex chest level int CA.

I play on stick but I would imagine on Hitbox it should be easier?

I finally figured it out by sliding my index finger to do the cancels.

 

[Johnny Based Cage]

I think most of the universal changes are dumb af too but hey more power to anyone who wants their GuessFV to just become a tic throws and yolo flashkicks fest.

 

[just_2swift]

Thoughts on zeku? His v2 might be top trigger in the game

 

[Johnny Based Cage]

Thoughts on zeku? His v2 might be top trigger in the game

Without even reading the patch notes for him because they would have had to literally delete his original V2 and replace it entirely for it to be anything but trash tier I hope to hell this is a troll/joke post lol.

 

[EntropicByDesign]

Thoughts on zeku? His v2 might be top trigger in the game

I have no intelligent thoughts, but he looks really decent now.

Karin - sorry Rushdown - looks kinda decent.. she has some neat shit. I've heard she can tenko-ex tenko-charged Vskill now but I haven't messed with it.. and I don't know if this is new to 3 or 3.5, but she can ex dash into cr.mp as well and combo from there. I like Karin. A LOT.

 

[EntropicByDesign]

Urien is set in stone.. but I do kinda want a pocket for when Im in a different mood.

Karin or Cammy?

and SOMEWHAT in my defense, I was considering Cammy before the patch. I just enjoy her neutral.

 

[Scoot Magee]

Lol ryu

 

[ILuvFightGames]

Urien is set in stone.. but I do kinda want a pocket for when Im in a different mood.

Karin or Cammy?



and SOMEWHAT in my defense, I was considering Cammy before the patch. I just enjoy her neutral.

I tried both of them, I didn't keep any because my footsies suck but goddam can a decent player mop you with footsies using them.

Lol ryu

Didn't read too much on his changes, mid tier?

 

[NHDR]

I'd like Ed so much more if his flicker didn't need piano'ing. Shit is tiring, think I'm gonna stick to Necalli and learn Laura. Is she considered at least decent? Does she have any exceptionally bad MU's?

 

[THTB]

I think most of the universal changes are dumb af too but hey more power to anyone who wants their GuessFV to just become a tic throws and yolo flashkicks fest.

Eh, I'd take more tick throws over throw loops, but that's just me.

 

[just_2swift]

Ibuki got better or nah