The cake was a very good metaphor for Chun-Li stealing all the tools and Juri not getting any of it.
This was just an unfortunate situation. The system counts disconnects so the system punished him. If some you knows networking please feel free to correct me but i dont think you can tell disconnected first so this kinds problem will happen.
Wait, you could possibly get banned for being rq'ed on a number of times?
Didn't he won back to back tournaments this weekend?
it was in ultra, although some characters could still punish the characters with bad dashes for fadc cancels. Looking at you zangief.
He must be getting slow in his old age.
Can Chun do the fireball crossup setups that Juri can? I don't know if anyone got the anti fireball game Juri has. Doesn't Juri have some target combo that launches that she can use to reset?
Plus on block armor could almost always be armored through if you made the read in MKX. In SFV, you pretty much have to hold that possible CC and then hold the next mixup. The only way out are invincible moves which typically don't do much more than 5%-10%. Considering the reward for a CC compared to a DP, Id say it's similar. In MKX, the reward for armoring through their armor was at least comparable damage.
dude of course they play the same. They press buttons at certain spaces to deal damage to their opponents who then die. They also press back to block. They're basically the same character, they even rely on the same fundamental concepts. They even all have the same input for throw. Disgusting.
so block strings are unfair?
Plus on block CC is only comparable to plus on block strings with no built in mixup in MKX. Except where they are in SFV makes sense. Mika either charges HK or does F+HP which requires some form of spacing, timing, read, or setup. Mika's is nasty because she's got a command grab. Bison on the other hand is doing normal throws to try and bait you pressing buttons. Outside of wakeup, Mika can't really use hers and Bison needs to play neutral and time his df+HP or get close enough to do st.HK. Which is hard because he is a slow charge character. Nothing like just being able to do armor whenever there is a gap. None of their crush counters actually put fear into you whenever you're just spacing trying to play like almost all the armor does in MKX.
No, but it shouldn't be your turn anymore after you just fished for a high damage combo.
You don't have to anymore because they nerfed all armored launchers to be at least negative on block.
You act as if people never get knocked down in this game. Standard tactic is knockdown > Meaty/throw/shimmy. If you have a + on block CC, Your meaty becomes an avenue towards more pressure/mixups.
No I was comparing them to MKX armor like you were. If were talking about knockdown I still think they're fine. The only one that's even slightly questionable to me is Chun's b+HP and that one does that spiral launch knockdown so she doesn't get a full combo like the rest. Everyone else is some kind of grappler so I don't mind them getting a bit of a extra mixup on knockdown or Bison. Bison isn't some mixup machine. Besides those match ups you take the same old mixup you just described.
How many knockdowns give you enough frames to cover both techs with guaranteed meaty plus on block CCs?
Mikas plus on block ccs don't lead to damage though, and bisons is hard to pull off due to his lack of mobility(not to mention all he can do after its blocked is like cr mp into his safe ball thingy).
I compared it to MKX + on block armor in the sense that you block a high damage launcher, then you have to block another mixup. People complained about that alot.
It's not just knockdowns, it's resets too, which are probably just as common. Basically everything that happens in this game is after a reset or knockdown. That's when the real damage/guessing starts happening. You guys are basically playing dumb at this point to defend this stuff. I'm not even salty or anything, I just know it's BS when a few select characters get special treatment.
characters have different tools. Bisons plus on block cc doesn't mean every character needs one since they all have stuff he doesn't, it's called game balance not game uniformity.
Yeah, I get that. I don't want every character to have the same frame data, but when it comes to CC's, I just think that they should either be neutral or negative on block, or plus and a high. I would draw the line because of the high reward of CC's. Just seems logical. And plus on block divekicks would also not exist if it was up to me. I think the game would be better that way. It is what it is but I wish it wasn't.
People weren't complaining that something was plus. It was the fact that you can move forward while basically being invulnerable and be plus. Some of those armor moves even started a combo. That's nothing like having a plus on block CC in SF.
Idk of any kds that guarantee meaty ccs that cover both techs or off resets that don't involve being conditioned. Unless we're talking off St. Jab antiairs which I already hate so. The paths to pressure with these buttons options is a risk and there options for every character afterwards > V reversal.
I was talking about + on block armored launchers, like crystaline tremor. It was definitely the + frames that made people salty.