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lionheart21

Its Game Over, Man
So two Nash's have won two tournaments already, I think people underestimate Nash when they talk about top tier. Opinions?
Based on what I've seen, I'd place him in Top 5. However, he does have a lack of an invincible attack, so without V-Trigger or V-Reversal, he could have an issue in dealing with pressure.

From just my experience, I'd put it as:

Chun
Ryu
Bison
Necalli
Nash

It's still way too early to make any concrete tier lists, though.
 
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buyacushun

Normalize grab immunity.
Infiltration is from Korea.
Yeah but that's just one player. It's like assuming Japan is really big on and high level for SF cause you heard Daigo is from there. So I was wondering if there is anyone else really good. Or maybe some tourney stuff.
 

Rip Torn

ALL I HAVE IS THE GREEN.
Yeah but that's just one player. It's like assuming Japan is really big on and high level for SF cause you heard Daigo is from there. So I was wondering if there is anyone else really good. Or maybe some tourney stuff.
They have good players and a strong scene. They used to have a place called Cafe ID, which had some really strong players in many games including SF4.
 

buyacushun

Normalize grab immunity.
They have good players and a strong scene. They used to have a place called Cafe ID, which had some really strong players in many games including SF4.
Oh yeah I forgot about Cafe ID. I mostly remember them from KoF. Really hoping 14 gets a lot of traction in the states.
 

buyacushun

Normalize grab immunity.
Can anyone tell me a full list of who streamed what friday to saturday so I can watch this? Any game you know.
 
me and daigo were running super close sets and we lost track of time my bad tbh

shouldnt have gave him the runback
Super close sets with Daigo? You must be not that good then because I played Daigo earlier today and he was free a lot of matches. We played like 20 matches but I'll be honest he did win 2. Infiltration's Nash ain't want none of my Laura.
 

Atomic Era

Grundy want pants too.
So here's a question I've been wondering for a while but now more than ever with the rise of V, how good should you be to enter tournaments? I've played fighting games my entire life with various levels of commitment. Played in arcades as a kid, online warrior as an adult. I've been above average/casual in most games but never commited.

I have smash/umvc3 playing friends that go to NCR and every time they ask if I want to go I turn them down. Not from lack of interest but feeling that I just wasn't good enough. I'd like to be more of a part of the FGC though. Right now I'm sitting in low Silver, slowly getting better but definitely with things I know I need to work on. I see the entrant numbers for things like FR and think they can't all be platinum players but would I belong there? So to you guys I ask when should I try to play at a tourney?
 

RM AtK!

aka - RM_AtK !
So here's a question I've been wondering for a while but now more than ever with the rise of V, how good should you be to enter tournaments? I've played fighting games my entire life with various levels of commitment. Played in arcades as a kid, online warrior as an adult. I've been above average/casual in most games but never commited.

I have smash/umvc3 playing friends that go to NCR and every time they ask if I want to go I turn them down. Not from lack of interest but feeling that I just wasn't good enough. I'd like to be more of a part of the FGC though. Right now I'm sitting in low Silver, slowly getting better but definitely with things I know I need to work on. I see the entrant numbers for things like FR and think they can't all be platinum players but would I belong there? So to you guys I ask when should I try to play at a tourney?
rank has nothing to do with how good someone is lmao.. i mean how much time have you put into ranked and your silver? as long as its not much time i wouldn't be too concerned, but even still nobody cares how good or bad you are at tourneys. Sure you get more props when you're good, but nobody is gonna laugh at you (except for stream warriors).
 

HGTV Soapboxfan

"Always a Pleasure"
So here's a question I've been wondering for a while but now more than ever with the rise of V, how good should you be to enter tournaments? I've played fighting games my entire life with various levels of commitment. Played in arcades as a kid, online warrior as an adult. I've been above average/casual in most games but never commited.

I have smash/umvc3 playing friends that go to NCR and every time they ask if I want to go I turn them down. Not from lack of interest but feeling that I just wasn't good enough. I'd like to be more of a part of the FGC though. Right now I'm sitting in low Silver, slowly getting better but definitely with things I know I need to work on. I see the entrant numbers for things like FR and think they can't all be platinum players but would I belong there? So to you guys I ask when should I try to play at a tourney?
I would go regardless of skill level. As long as you have a solid understanding of how the game works, go to events. Personally (and I have heard this from many other players as well) I level up about a thousand times faster at events and tournaments than just regular play at home. The pressure, the unfamiliar players, the people who can give you advice, and just being around the game makes you level up quickly. Plus tournaments are just a ton of fun!
 

buyacushun

Normalize grab immunity.
So here's a question I've been wondering for a while but now more than ever with the rise of V, how good should you be to enter tournaments? I've played fighting games my entire life with various levels of commitment. Played in arcades as a kid, online warrior as an adult. I've been above average/casual in most games but never commited.

I have smash/umvc3 playing friends that go to NCR and every time they ask if I want to go I turn them down. Not from lack of interest but feeling that I just wasn't good enough. I'd like to be more of a part of the FGC though. Right now I'm sitting in low Silver, slowly getting better but definitely with things I know I need to work on. I see the entrant numbers for things like FR and think they can't all be platinum players but would I belong there? So to you guys I ask when should I try to play at a tourney?
I say go. You get a chance to play all levels of talent offline plus be in person for some hype shit. If you want, you can pay for me to go and I'l give you the complete rundown so you KNOW if it's something you want to do.
 

pogse

Ruthlesss Mayhem
So here's a question I've been wondering for a while but now more than ever with the rise of V, how good should you be to enter tournaments? I've played fighting games my entire life with various levels of commitment. Played in arcades as a kid, online warrior as an adult. I've been above average/casual in most games but never commited.

I have smash/umvc3 playing friends that go to NCR and every time they ask if I want to go I turn them down. Not from lack of interest but feeling that I just wasn't good enough. I'd like to be more of a part of the FGC though. Right now I'm sitting in low Silver, slowly getting better but definitely with things I know I need to work on. I see the entrant numbers for things like FR and think they can't all be platinum players but would I belong there? So to you guys I ask when should I try to play at a tourney?
whenever you can, just go. casuals, watching offline pool play and interacting with the community alone is worth it.
 
So here's a question I've been wondering for a while but now more than ever with the rise of V, how good should you be to enter tournaments? I've played fighting games my entire life with various levels of commitment. Played in arcades as a kid, online warrior as an adult. I've been above average/casual in most games but never commited.

I have smash/umvc3 playing friends that go to NCR and every time they ask if I want to go I turn them down. Not from lack of interest but feeling that I just wasn't good enough. I'd like to be more of a part of the FGC though. Right now I'm sitting in low Silver, slowly getting better but definitely with things I know I need to work on. I see the entrant numbers for things like FR and think they can't all be platinum players but would I belong there? So to you guys I ask when should I try to play at a tourney?
Let me put it this way, hundreds of people participated in SF V at final round, if you're above average then you would have beaten many of the guys that actually did participate in the tournament. I remember there was a guy years ago that entered a tournament and was really really bad, I mean jump in 4 times into a dragon punch bad. He met other few players like him then they just played themselves all night long. I never totally believe the rank hype, I mean it's a way to determine a skill level but it can be misleading.
 

Atomic Era

Grundy want pants too.
Thank you all for your responses, I'll definitely go and get bodied next chance I get.
I say go. You get a chance to play all levels of talent offline plus be in person for some hype shit. If you want, you can pay for me to go and I'l give you the complete rundown so you KNOW if it's something you want to do.
Heh, when my cash flow gets better I might just take you up on that offer.
 

Atomic Era

Grundy want pants too.
Let me put it this way, hundreds of people participated in SF V at final round, if you're above average then you would have beaten many of the guys that actually did participate in the tournament. I remember there was a guy years ago that entered a tournament and was really really bad, I mean jump in 4 times into a dragon punch bad. He met other few players like him then they just played themselves all night long. I never totally believe the rank hype, I mean it's a way to determine a skill level but it can be misleading.
Yeah, I know LP isn't a good gauge. I've beaten people quite a bit higher than me, lost some to people below me, and so far in my SFV career I've had the honor of losing to the likes of Mike Ross, Snake Eyez, and Floe with none of them being blowouts.
 
I just thought of something that I can't recall thinking about before, maybe because it came natural, but since SF is a very neutral and footsie played game, when you jump in on someone and they block your jump-in hit, who has the advantage after that? I mean if I do a jump in with a Ryu fierce and they block what happens if I try to follow up with a crouching short but they (say another Ryu) tries the same crouching short after they've blocked my jump in?
 

RM AtK!

aka - RM_AtK !
I just thought of something that I can't recall thinking about before, maybe because it came natural, but since SF is a very neutral and footsie played game, when you jump in on someone and they block your jump-in hit, who has the advantage after that? I mean if I do a jump in with a Ryu fierce and they block what happens if I try to follow up with a crouching short but they (say another Ryu) tries the same crouching short after they've blocked my jump in?
look up frame data lol.. fierces have massive adv like more then +10
 

d3v

SRK
So two Nash's have won two tournaments already, I think people underestimate Nash when they talk about top tier. Opinions?
You can't really call tiers from tournament results.

At the end of the day, it's still about putting things together in a match up chart and seeing who comes out on top.

Nash seems strong, but there are indications that he loses certain match ups. Compare to characters like Chun-Li and Cammy who currently seem to have to have no bad match ups.

We might be looking at another "Wesker" situation where someone seems strong early on but drops off once people learn to take advantage of his flaws (or, simply get better).