Lol I bet that feels weird right?
This I agree with. I never had a problem with people disagree if they explain their opinion. My only issue was your choice of words.
Cutthroat is really good, Cyber is good-ish, but Commando is just ass at this point. It's the one that needs "serious" help.
Yea he's good with about half the cast now. It's insane. I can only be good with like 2 characters at a time haha. He doesn't really use Kano as much as he did before but he's a good enough player to always be able to play him at a high level in MUs he likes or feels favorable. I fear for any Cassie he gets matched up against lol.
You of all people should know the answer to this.
Yea that's why I think it needs help the most. More hit adv on choke is a must for better oki and pressure. More throw setups. It "needs" things like that where the other variations are already good.
Lmao!!!! Nah it was like MK Ladder. You had to make it to the Final Boss but lost half way through the ladder with no more continues left.
I want to know why she loses too. It's mostly just a game of footsies until Cassie gets her turn.
One would think that you both should be well educated on the reason.
Don't you dare say knives Salt ShakerOne would think that you both should be well educated on the reason.
What about vs Brawler/Spec Ops
No idea. Xeno only plays that one variation
First off the Liu kang matchup is not in lius favor and he loses. I played this with @EMPR_MURK and he has played this with many Kano players, and not only does he agree but so do the other kano players Doctor Stabs and Shdw Demon both think liu loses, Lius fireballs are unsafe and can be punished a little closer than midscreen with f4, lius fireballs are slower than kanos knives, and kano can backdash or reverse exx flying kick, kanoout spaces liu which is why he wins. Kotal goes even with cybernetic as kano can armor through and reverse kotals gaps, well and get good punished, he outzones kotal but kotal has a good neutral game and walk speed. The tanya thing yah im high and wrong, Cyberntic does not lose to Mileena at all, after playing this matchup with a few different Milieena kano doesnt need to respect shit, he can through out knives and then block before her sai ususally, you can easily bait her teleport, and her roll is no threat, as you can also bait it and rolling in the neutral is risky as is.Kung lao doesnt beat cybernetic, even tho kunglaos jp2 is godlike, if i ever see someone jump, i just run up d2 or up laser including lao, kano can out zone lao, and that tele is no threat with a 6 frame roll and d2. Kanos damage is not below average 28 percent meterless but like is said you can do 112laser112knife grab and they can only armor or backdash, but they risk you reading them with b13 or b23, and getting damage, he gets good corner damage into a restand. PLus your the one who brought up the overhead in the 1st place.
Uh bro it definitely is not lol. It's half Kano zoning and Cassie trying to get in, maybe 30% neutral then 20% close up. There's no "until" Cassie gets her turn, it's if she gets her turn. Or do you want to go back through our footage?
But really though, how come you suddenly feel different about the matchup?Why? I would say those kinds of trades are in Cyber's favour since not only would she be eating the 5% but she'd also have to deal with a followup knife or two. But I'd like to hear why you think so.
The Liu Kang matchup is most definitely in Liu Kang's favour. No offence to murk but if he's losing to Cybernetics he's not playing the matchup correctly. I highly doubt Stabs thinks so, or if he for some reason does I would love to hear why he thinks so. Liu's fireballs are unsafe from upclose, but why would he be doing them that close anyway? If Lius are doing them up close against you that might be a reason they're losing. Lius fireballs being slower than Kanos knives make no difference because they still travel at a decent speed and do more damage so you will lose in the zoning war, or should if you're playing Lius who know the matchup. Liu doesn't need to use flying kick, Kano is the one who has to come in on him because he doesn't trade favourably in zoning. Kano doesn't out space Liu, as I said Liu has the second fastest backwards walkspeed in the game and his footsie tools are above average so if you're winning in neutral you're just the better player in that situation. It really sounds like the Kang(s) you play just don't know the matchup.
WALLOFTEXT HOLY SHIT KANO PLAYERS POST BETTER PLEASE.Uh bro it definitely is not lol. It's half Kano zoning and Cassie trying to get in, maybe 30% neutral then 20% close up. There's no "until" Cassie gets her turn, it's if she gets her turn. Or do you want to go back through our footage?
Why? I would say those kinds of trades are in Cyber's favour since not only would she be eating the 5% but she'd also have to deal with a followup knife or two. But I'd like to hear why you think so.
The Liu Kang matchup is most definitely in Liu Kang's favour. No offence to murk but if he's losing to Cybernetics he's not playing the matchup correctly. I highly doubt Stabs thinks so, or if he for some reason does I would love to hear why he thinks so. Liu's fireballs are unsafe from upclose, but why would he be doing them that close anyway? If Lius are doing them up close against you that might be a reason they're losing. Lius fireballs being slower than Kanos knives make no difference because they still travel at a decent speed and do more damage so you will lose in the zoning war, or should if you're playing Lius who know the matchup. Liu doesn't need to use flying kick, Kano is the one who has to come in on him because he doesn't trade favourably in zoning. Kano doesn't out space Liu, as I said Liu has the second fastest backwards walkspeed in the game and his footsie tools are above average so if you're winning in neutral you're just the better player in that situation. It really sounds like the Kang(s) you play just don't know the matchup.
I'm fine with Kotal being even, I just don't think Cyber wins is all.
Lol it's cool, you're not the first to say Tanya wins anyway
Mileena shouldn't even be trading with sai, she rolls under knives completely. Kano most definitely does need to respect some of her stuff, B12 is +2 on block and with the space Mileena will be using it at you would be risking a lot to try and do something after it. She shouldn't even be teleporting as it's too slow to use on reaction most of the time. If the player is playing Mileena in a very unsafe way that's on them. not Mileena. Roll is no threat? Tell the Mileena player you're playing that roll goes under knives, see how little a threat it becomes then lol.
Kung Lao does in fact beat Cybernetic because, as I said, he shuts down two of the best areas of Cybernetic's game. If people let you away with run up D2 without at least once trying to divekick to catch you they're not playing the matchup correctly. Competent Kung Lao players will enforce the threat of divekick to shut down your anti-air game and as I said even if they start J2 they can cancel it on whiff into divekick. The risk is not worth the reward considering you don't get to combo from a D2 but Lao can from a divekick. Of course Kano can outzone Lao but Lao shouldn't even be attempting to zone in the first place. You really do play against some weird people lol.
Yes, Kanos damage is definitely below average. Most characters get above 30% meterless and around 40% for a bar, Kano does not. Therefore his damage is below average. Just because you have setups for a grab doesn't make his combo damage any higher, as I said potential damage is irrelevant, keep to practical guaranteed stuff. And as I said about his corner game, the opponent should just be blocking low. They will not be eating any 40+% combos at that point. And 12% compared to 40+%? I think I know what I'd take.
Also no, you brought up that Cybernetic has everything but a 50/50.
Also tagging to confirm opinions aren't just things you're making up @EMPR_MURK @Doctor Stabs
I played the MU like once. Maybe you don't know and you don't want to be EXPOSED as an inferior kano player.You of all people should know the answer to this.
We weren't playing on the variable lag setups I use at home. Fraudulent ass local. ESL uses the same setup I do and they play for 1000 per week.Lmao!!!! Nah it was like MK Ladder. You had to make it to the Final Boss but lost half way through the ladder with no more continues left.
Does spec ops missiles not play a role in the MU? I always felt like spec ops should do ok against some plasma chuckers. Only really been playing brawler though.
Lmaooooo!!!!! Good thing I wasn't at work reading this lol.I played the MU like once. Maybe you don't know and you don't want to be EXPOSED as an inferior kano player.
We weren't playing on the variable lag setups I use at home. Fraudulent ass local. ESL uses the same setup I do and they play for 1000 per week.
But really though. Can neither spec ops nor hollywood challenge kano?
Hey mind telling me where I can find the Jupe footage? I tried looking around but I could only find his top 8 at the major in italy.Tbh the narrative, at least from the majority of the Kano community (and even the ex-Kano community) is that he sucks lol. As I said people might think me an upplayer but Kano's only been doing better as time's went on. Lately that I can remember Royale for one has made top 8s and Jupe just won a major with just Cutthroat and Cybernetic so I think the main problem holding Kano back is the people playing him that don't think he's good enough. If you don't think you're going to win with the character before the match has started you're already losing. Kano players just aren't seen much, more need to get out to tournaments
But Kano can check Cassie with knives too, it works both ways. Both options are just as risky too. Actually I found that neutral crouching slightly reduces the range on her B12, it reaches further if you're standing, so it can actually be to your advantage to be mixing in some neutral crouches if she's nearer to help against both B1/B2 and ia guns. I don't see much of a reason Kano would need to iakb anyway, or at least that's another tool I don't use much since it's so risky lol.
