The Reason GA's Arrows do 0.1% on chip, 1% on hit.

[Cossner]

or maybe they had enough sense to know that attack should not do too much damage. harley's guns are the same way. they only do 4% on hit, 1% something chip, and they hit high. there are some dumbos whining they should do more damage and hit mid but no one understands it's just supposed to be a pesky move.

Yeah I mean, on block, it'd just take me to land 10 arrows to do what Harley does with 1 gun on block. Huh.

It's okay cossner, at least he has a safe Overhead tracking teleport.... oh wait

well maybe he has a 13 frame 3/4 screen punish.... oh wait...

maybe he has a safe low combo launching slide... oh wait....



It's because he has an unblockable super, that's the answer, Cossner

4 bars for 45%, provided you never used meter at all and miles harder to land than say, Sups super. I don't know man.

The arrows do not need to be buffed...the low crouch buff was enough. The chip is fine.

I agree with NRS on all of the damage/chip that the arrows do.

If you are trying to "chip" somebody out...Hurricane bow, 5% chip.

Say you're up close, 22 low arrow, d1 hurricane bow, can't interrupt it.

Also, I do this a lot. If I need the last bit of damage, I will pull out elect arrow and wait for them to panic jump, if you have decent reactions, you can match their jump and punish them accordingly.

He's not really a "zoner", which I'm thankful for because when it comes down to it, I can't zone to save my life.

Hurricane Bow is useful.. if they're about to die... it's full combo punishable on block.
And it can be interrupted by characters with 6 frame d1s.

Dude, chip is not fine. How can batman sit down all day throwing batrangs while I have to block them, while I do the same damage he does with 1 batrang on block throwing 30 arrows on block?

 

[ZalliX]

Yeah I mean, on block, it'd just take me to land 10 arrows to do what Harley does with 1 gun on block. Huh.

4 bars for 45%, provided you never used meter at all and miles harder to land than say, Sups super. I don't know man.


Hurricane Bow is useful.. if they're about to die... it's full combo punishable on block.
And it can be interrupted by characters with 6 frame d1s.

Dude, chip is not fine. How can batman sit down all day throwing batrangs while I have to block them, while I do the same damage he does with 1 batrang on block throwing 30 arrows on block?

Cant you slide under batarangs? or just jump over and punish him with an arrow.....

 

[SoundsLikePAUSE]

Cant you slide under batarangs?

I don't think you can, and even so, slide's unsafe.

I have to agree with Cossner though. A slight dmg increase to his arrows would be a normalization. I feel like my opponent's laughing their ass off everytime I hit them with one. I know I do when I face other GA's.

 

[NightwingDayZero]

7L and Chris G. Your argument is invalid.

Level up and adapt.

Fucking 2013ers always bitching about something.

 

[Hanzer0]

Give him some sort of instant air regular arrow and increse chip.
It would be more exciting to watch at least and Chris G gets to show us his execution

 

[Cossner]

Cant you slide under batarangs? or just jump over and punish him with an arrow.....

You can't slide. If you jump over and you throw an arrow you eat the next batrang.

7L and Chris G. Your argument is invalid.

Level up and adapt.

Fucking 2013ers always bitching about something.

Tsssk go away.

 

[ZalliX]

You can't slide. If you jump over and you throw an arrow you eat the next batrang.

If its a frost arrow you win the trade.

 

[Chaosphere]

Ugh. Boring thread. Next.

 

[Cossner]

Ugh. Boring thread. Next.

Not enough Nic Cage pictures.

If its a frost arrow you win the trade.

And then the batman can see that you jumped and get in and pressure/backdash/block the arrow and leave you in an uncomfortable position.

 

[Chaosphere]

Not really. It's just that it sucks when I go to the green arrow forums to look up information about the character 7 months into the game and find not very much. Then I just see threads complaining about this or that. No offense or anything because that pretty much applies to a lot of character forums. It's just that every day it gets more and more frustrating. It wasn't like this in mk, even early in the game's life. I totally understand some of the complaining considering that's how we influence nerfs/buffs in patches. But I honestly don't think the game will be patched again and just... ugh.

 

[testyourpatience]

Yeah I mean, on block, it'd just take me to land 10 arrows to do what Harley does with 1 gun on block. Huh.

Dude, chip is not fine. How can batman sit down all day throwing batrangs while I have to block them, while I do the same damage he does with 1 batrang on block throwing 30 arrows on block?

you're not going to get anywhere comparing your character to top tiers. nightwing and batman have way more bullshit than arrow does. btw arrow is an annoying match for harley because of that stupid low arrow.

 

[Cossner]

Not really. It's just that it sucks when I go to the green arrow forums to look up information about the character 7 months into the game and find not very much. Then I just see threads complaining about this or that. No offense or anything because that pretty much applies to a lot of character forums. It's just that every day it gets more and more frustrating. It wasn't like this in mk, even early in the game's life. I totally understand some of the complaining considering that's how we influence nerfs/buffs in patches. But I honestly don't think the game will be patched again and just... ugh.

You're kidding me right?

http://testyourmight.com/threads/would-you-look-at-that-100.37923/
http://testyourmight.com/threads/new-green-arrow-combos-issue-with-up-haven-blast.38202/
http://testyourmight.com/threads/list-of-characters-where-f2d13-xx-stinger-whiffs.38524/
http://testyourmight.com/threads/green-arrow-corner-mix-ups-with-fire-arrows.38547/
http://testyourmight.com/threads/understanding-green-arrow-jumping-normals-and-jump-ins.38764/
http://testyourmight.com/threads/killing-wake-ups-off-d3-hard-knockdown-set-up-for-round-or-game-ending-with-no-special-arrow.38963/
http://testyourmight.com/threads/green-arrow-50-50-reset.38563/
http://testyourmight.com/threads/green-arrow-new-high-damage-combos-1-06-patch.39140/
http://testyourmight.com/threads/green-arrows-pressure-options.30509/
http://testyourmight.com/threads/green-arrow-reset-no-meter-wait-what.34730/
http://testyourmight.com/threads/green-arrow-reset-and-mix-up-options.35499/
http://testyourmight.com/threads/d1-arrow-how-to-blow-it-up-and-its-other-variations-with-each-character.35171/
And yeah even this http://www.testyourmight.com/threads/green-arrow-in-depth-match-up-discussion-1-06.38428/ has a lot of info about how to deal with a lot of characters.

If anything, the Green Arrow community has found out a shit ton of stuff about him, with little whining, even though the character is poop. I have nothing but respect for the Green Arrow community, since we're all told "we just don't know how to play the character", even though we know a billion times more than anyone else in the community. So no, just no.

 

[CommonNick]

Ugh. Boring thread. Next.

Not at all, I've got some serious problems against the 2nd guy in 1vs1 matches in Europe who plays GA, I can't do shit against him, I learn so many weaknesses from such threads.

I say: keep whining so we all can adapt to your shit, and get better than you with our low tier characters.

 

[Duck Nation]

I say: keep whining so we all can adapt to your shit, and get better than you with our low tier characters.

Low tier? GA is bottom 3.

 

[RM Truth]

Low tier? GA is bottom 3.

Kappa?

 

[Duck Nation]

Kappa?

No. It's as I've said before, everyone thinks their character beats GA and yet also thinks GA is still good. 7L and Chris G have created a myopia about the character. Even the worst characters in Injustice are still okay, but everything is an uphill battle for him. I expect him in time to drop below Shazam on the tier list and be rated only above Joker.

 

[Cossner]

No. It's as I've said before, everyone thinks their character beats GA and yet also thinks GA is still good. 7L and Chris G have created a myopia about the character. Even the worst characters in Injustice are still okay, but everything is an uphill battle for him. I expect him in time to drop below Shazam on the tier list and be rated only above Joker.

But he beats Harley, Joker, Shazam, HG and WW!

 

[RM Truth]

No. It's as I've said before, everyone thinks their character beats GA and yet also thinks GA is still good. 7L and Chris G have created a myopia about the character. Even the worst characters in Injustice are still okay, but everything is an uphill battle for him. I expect him in time to drop below Shazam on the tier list and be rated only above Joker.

Green Arrow is not bottom 3. He's low mid tier at the worst.

 

[Duck Nation]

But he beats Harley, Joker, Shazam, HG and WW!

I dunno. I found that all of those were mostly called even.

 

[Galactic Geek]

Do you guys think it would be fair or too much of a buff to have his normal arrows do say, anywhere from 2-3% damage instead of 1% damage?

 

[RM Truth]

But he beats Harley, Joker, Shazam, HG and WW!

He also doesn't have a lot of heavily disadvantage MUs. The worst ones are probably Grundy, Bane, and maybe Lex.

 

[Duck Nation]

Green Arrow is not bottom 3. He's low mid tier at the worst.

No. I play the character, I've done the reading and the research, you're just going off having watched him in a few tournaments. I have a lot more to back up my statement than you have to back up yours. Either come back with a concrete match-by-match rationalization from people with extensive experience or close your mouth.

 

[RM Truth]

No. I play the character, I've done the reading and the research, you're just going off having watched him in a few tournaments. I have a lot more to back up my statement than you have to back up yours. Either come back with a concrete match-by-match rationalization from people with extensive experience or close your mouth.

This character was my original main but I guess your word is clearly better than mine off of some sort of strange rationale.

 

[testyourpatience]

zatanna is also bottom so don't forget her when you're placing ga.

 

[CommonNick]

Low tier? GA is bottom 3.

Sure sure, with KF right?
You people just whine all day about tiers... Tier lists are for the WEAK.
Come on, GA has so many tools, focus on what you can do and be aware of your weaknesses, now do the same against each and every character in the game.

Now now, I do understand that HUMANS created this game, thus it can't be perfect=completely balanced, but NRS did a great job in making sure that any character can beat almost any character.
HQ is my main, and I'm not going to ditch her for any so called top tier, because I love the character and her playstyle. She just got nerfed in the last patch(1.06), which is an absurd, but oh well.

In other words, DEAL WITH IT. Whining can result in good things, it makes you think, but I don't see solutions, and replying me with "Low tier? GA is bottom 3." won't give you any, believe me.

I'm writing too much, sorry... boredom