Qwark28
Joker waiting room
injustice dicks cut among us when the patch hitIsn't it awesome? And his corner bnb only does 53% now.I meant our d1 by the way. Just to make that clear.
injustice dicks cut among us when the patch hitIsn't it awesome? And his corner bnb only does 53% now.
Only if they don't clip you first. You lose the damage bonus if your armor takes a hit before your hit comes out. But yeah, Bane off of a good Mb b.3 read can scoop up some... 40% 1 bar or 43% 2 bars with wake-up advantage.
Superman and Killer Frost. I believe these 2 will be his worst MU's after the patch as well.
but after the patch I think its more winnable ? vs superman
He still builds meter like crazy though. Plus the fact that he can super DD during almost all of his strings, including ES cancels even after the patch. Batman will be more manageable since he ll think twice throwing a batarang if DD has meter. His absolute worst MU's will be these 3 imo.
Im sure it is something you can get good at, but I doubt it's easy. I actually think I'd prefer my opponent to try and backdash it. That opens up way more mixups for me, and the chance that if you fuck up you still eat ES. You have to focus so hard on that, you won't be able to see the other bullshit I throw out. You can't see everything my friend.
But props for trying. Let me know how it goes, but my thought is overall, it will make things harder on you. Just a guess.
its still a way to escape the shake, it doesnt help doomsday as much as it helps the defender, DDs earth shake has a lot of holes overallIm sure it is something you can get good at, but I doubt it's easy. I actually think I'd prefer my opponent to try and backdash it. That opens up way more mixups for me, and the chance that if you fuck up you still eat ES. You have to focus so hard on that, you won't be able to see the other bullshit I throw out. You can't see everything my friend.
I hear ya. But I think you are going to really need to be looking for it. If you focus on that, then d3 and throw and slower string become even more dangerous. Not to mention d1 Venom blows that shit right up and sends you to the corner.
I'd much rather use it in situations I know a D1 shake is coming rather than randomly, you can''t react to shake itself and only to the D1 unfortunately.
I see where he is coming from. Stop Doomy from building hella meter. I just don't think its worth it because it opens up more options for Doomsday.
Yea, thats why I said I want my opponent trying this. Then I can throw out whatever I want because you are forced to key on d1 constantly. I wish you look good sir, Im sure it will be useful situationally for sure, but overall...i think id actually prefer my opponent trying to do that.
Because ES does not end DDs pressure while this gives you very needed breathing space.
Grundy's armor on WC used to piss me off like no other because it made my pressure nearly useless. But then I read something amazing on these forums: 33 beats WC every time (maybe unless cancelled?), whether it's a wake up or just being thrown out there.
This can be read by Grundy and either backdashed or canceled for a full combo punish. But you can also read that he's going to try to punish, and only go for one 3 canceled into a venom or ES. The entire match is based on reads. And is entirely even. You actually can do 33 after an mb venom and the only way grundy can interrupt it is if he knows you're going to 33 and does d2, but this is a risk because you can beat that out with d1 es free.
Any extra information for this MU is always appreciated.
Im going to jump in here because I think this is super important for all Doomsday players. There are three other options that beat standing 3 after MB venom.
yes and now when they buffed mb b3s .... well , it sucksIm going to jump in here because I think this is super important for all Doomsday players. There are three other options that beat standing 3 after MB venom.
Backdash
MB F3
MB B3
Now to be fair, I havent tested 33 against all backdashes. Its possible that the second three connects based on hit box and dash recovery. I will not say for sure yes or no, but its possible. However, MB F/B3 will blow that shit up for sure. Generic tool for all characters. On the otherhand, d1 beats those out. Thats the guessing game post MB venom. Everyone in the game can do this to my knowledge. Just wanted to get that out there. Its not just d2 Grundy can beat it with.
For example vs lobo with full trait ur eating 50% comboI still don't find Lobo to be a hard match up, even with his changes. But that could just be because I haven't fought a really good Lobo player yet.yes and now when they buffed mb b3s .... well , it sucks
It's realistically any normal that's 8 or less frames. Since you're +6 after MB venom, and 3 starts up at 14 frames.Im going to jump in here because I think this is super important for all Doomsday players. There are three other options that beat standing 3 after MB venom.
Backdash
MB F3
MB B3
Now to be fair, I havent tested 33 against all backdashes. Its possible that the second three connects based on hit box and dash recovery. I will not say for sure yes or no, but its possible. However, MB F/B3 will blow that shit up for sure. Generic tool for all characters. On the otherhand, d1 beats those out. Thats the guessing game post MB venom. Everyone in the game can do this to my knowledge. Just wanted to get that out there. Its not just d2 Grundy can beat it with.
Lobo was free pre patch due to him not having a viable wake up. Now it's probably only semi-free due to him having a decent wake up. He still has absolutely no way to get you off him, and no way to pressure you once he knocks you down.
this is what i have been saying before, backdash against supes since dd's d1 has really good range, and for me supes is one of the guys easier to pressure since he has no good wakeups, air grab is punishable jax punch is the safer one, but my real question here is how do you deal with killer frost, and apologies, how long do i have to wait or what must i do to recharge my trait back?