Match-up Discussion JimmyPotato Arrow Pre "Big Patch" Match Chart

[Doombawkz]

to be fair no he doesn't cause when i guess right, I get less then 30%, and that if I have an ice arrow loaded, and when he guess right he hits me for 45+ hard knockdown. so, yah

His highest damage combo with level 1 venom is like... 40% meterless, and that's including a jump in.
Without one, we break maybe 30% or so.

 

[Jimmypotato]

His highest damage combo with level 1 venom is like... 40% meterless, and that's including a jump in.
Without one, we break maybe 30% or so.

ummmmmmmmmm I'm not a genius or anything, but I know he can do better damage then that, I've seen 50+ right infront of my face man, midscreen, so, yah

 

[Doombawkz]

ummmmmmmmmm I'm not a genius or anything, but I know he can do better damage then that, I've seen 50+ right infront of my face man, midscreen, so, yah

At level 1 venom? No, he would have to be level 2 and spend 2 bars or level 3 to get that kind of damage off.

 

[Jimmypotato]

At level 1 venom? No, he would have to be level 2 and spend 2 bars or level 3 to get that kind of damage off.

hit comfirming into level 2 and 3 from whatever durning combos, and ending round into defub to let the time be shorter.

 

[Doombawkz]

They would have to start 2 and go to 3 to do that. Someone would have to numbers check me, but out highest damage meter less is a full-3 combo, and our highest level 2 is a 2 bar 50%

 

[Jimmypotato]

They would have to start 2 and go to 3 to do that. Someone would have to numbers check me, but out highest damage meter less is a full-3 combo, and our highest level 2 is a 2 bar 50%

but who cares about meterless damage and shit, Bane can spend it in this match, yoBiPolarExxpress educate this man please

 

[Doombawkz]

Yes, polar bear. Educate me.
Also just because we have meter doesn't mean we wanna waste it all. MB.3s are all the armor we have in cool down not to mention pushblock.

 

[Jimmypotato]

Yes, polar bear. Educate me.
Also just because we have meter doesn't mean we wanna waste it all. MB.3s are all the armor we have in cool down not to mention pushblock.

dude who cares about a 6 second cool down quit playing the match up on paper in your head

 

[Doombawkz]

dude who cares about a 6 second cool down quit playing the match up on paper in your head

It's not just a 6 second cool down, it's a 6 second cool down where we have to make sure we don't lose all forms of momentum. It's one where we have to control the pace and shove it back in our favour. You're in bane shock, but honestly thinking "it's just 6 seconds" shows you don't know much about how the character works.

We need to manage both venom and meter. A bane isn't good unless he can do both, because only through doing both will he win out over people who know how and when to abuse him.

 

[Jimmypotato]

It's not just a 6 second cool down, it's a 6 second cool down where we have to make sure we don't lose all forms of momentum. It's one where we have to control the pace and shove it back in our favour. You're in bane shock, but honestly thinking "it's just 6 seconds" shows you don't know much about how the character works.

We need to manage both venom and meter. A bane isn't good unless he can do both, because only through doing both will he win out over people who know how and when to abuse him.

lol sure man, I've been in bane shock for a month, dude, level up and quit losing to chris g tactics, Jamie blows everything up that I do including D1 anything. lol your back dash is insanly good too, so, yah, level up.

 

[Doombawkz]

lol sure man, I've been in bane shock for a month, dude, level up and quit losing to chris g tactics, Jamie blows everything up that I do including D1 anything. lol your back dash is insanly good too, so, yah, level up.

Jamie being polar bear, yeah? Of course he would, if you don't know how to fight Bane then you'll lose, but all of what you just said doesn't show you know how to fight a Bane in the slightest. Maybe stop losing to Polar bear tactics and whatnot.

And nothing is good at level 3 cool down. Not dashes, not damage, nothing.

 

[Jimmypotato]

Jamie being polar bear, yeah? Of course he would, if you don't know how to fight Bane then you'll lose, but all of what you just said doesn't show you know how to fight a Bane in the slightest. Maybe stop losing to Polar bear tactics and whatnot.

And nothing is good at level 3 cool down. Not dashes, not damage, nothing.

dude, I know I'm right, so, doesn't matter, and he is not the only Bane player in my city thank you very much

 

[Doombawkz]

dude, I know I'm right, so, doesn't matter, and he is not the only Bane player in my city thank you very much

Except you aren't right. The fact that you use ice arrow at all in the MU shows you aren't right. I'd welcome polar bear to tell me I'm wrong since he at least knows the character more than at the skin-deep level.

I wouldn't trust your opinion on Bane near as much as I would his or my own.

 

[BiPolarExxpress]

Lmao I have a feeling I should sit that one out. And should change my GT to Polarbear haha.

 

[Doombawkz]

Lmao I have a feeling I should sit that one out. And should change my GT to Polarbear haha.

Tell me I'm wrong about Bane and his general basic gameplay, polar bear. I obviously know nothing about the character .
Tell me about how level 3 cool down is "just a 6 second cool down" and how we don't have to bother with meter management.

 

[Jimmypotato]

Tell me I'm wrong about Bane and his general basic gameplay, polar bear. I obviously know nothing about the character .
Tell me about how level 3 cool down is "just a 6 second cool down" and how we don't have to bother with meter management.

dude, listen.....


if it was 5-5, I should be able to at least get a win or get by with some bull shit gimmick shit, I tried to do other "Arrow"s besides ice. The fact that I played him offline at least 50 times and still didn't even get 1 win means something.

yes maybe it means I suck, but dude, i don't suck. I admit that Polar is a better player then me but I'm not horrible, I can make reads I can make comebacks, and I know how to play the game.

I played Polor a shit ton at my house then in grand finals at our local today, and I can tell because I fuckin know 100% that Bane beats Arrow hard.

and thats all I have to say about it man, Imaculate Venom management, and reads, and traitiing up on reaction duruing combos is Polars specialty, I'm sorry if you're losing to arrows at all, because I can't even wake up in the match if you have the skill and timing to hit his meaty ass wake up killing low bulls shit like Polar does.

Potato Out

 

[Doombawkz]

-snip-

Sounds like you have a 3-7 MU against Polarbear.
Bane v Bane is a 5-5 (obviously) but Mustard can toss me 50-3 and I could go even with Max and beat Legion a fair amount of times. I've even fought polarbear, and although I admit he is good and maybe even one of the top 5 Banes (maybe) he has a style that is effective but beatable.

But taking your personal experience against only one style of Bane and saying its a 7-3 Bane? I think not.

 

[TakeAChance]

I am just going to put this out there. Perhaps to give perspective. If arrow can't use ice arrow... How will he get any damage in the matchup? Charge wins all trades.

 

[Doombawkz]

I am just going to put this out there. Perhaps to give perspective. If arrow can't use ice arrow... How will he get any damage in the matchup? Charge wins all trades.

At full, Arrow can plus two electrics before Bane gets in I think. Plus he can do some pretty damaging combos using the electrics, on top of having the good chip and faster travel speeds. The fire does what it does. If the Bane is recklessly charging, Charge loses to MB f/b 3 and you can plus about 30% or so on top of an arrow load I think. Using ice scales the damage down too much, and its basically a cue for the Bane player to chill off his trait and take the reduced damage on their cooldown.

 

[TakeAChance]

What's a green arrow lightning combo? Isn't it extremely gimmicky and based on like one string?

 

[PND_Mustard]

Bane GA is 6-4 Bane, easily.

 

[BiPolarExxpress]

Been a while doom, I've switched it up quite a bit haha. 7-3 is a push for me, but match is easily advantage bane.

 

[Doombawkz]

Been a while doom, I've switched it up quite a bit haha. 7-3 is a push for me, but match is easily advantage bane.

I bet I could still bend you over my knee if I had to. I've gotten better as well.

 

[Scoot Magee]

I'd like to play a bane player. I don't have much experience at all in the match.

 

[7L]

Aquaman 3-7
Ares 6-4
Bane 5-5
Batgirl 5-5
Batman 4-6
Black Adam 4-6
Catwoman 6-4
Cyborg 4-6
Deathstroke 5-5
Doomsday 6-4
Flash 5-5
GreenLantern 6-4
HarleyQuinn 5-5
HawkGirl 6-4
Joker 6-4
KillerFrost 6-4
LexLuthor 1-9
Lobo 6-4
MartianMan 5-5
NightDick 6-4
Raven 4-6
Scorpion 5-5
Shazam 6-4
Sinestro 5-5
Grundy 7-3
Superman 5-5
WWoman 4-6
Zatanna ?
Zod ?

Damn that's a little downplaying

Grundy can't do anything against arrow. And GL/Superman is 5-5 at the moment. Same with nightwing.

Sinestro is 5-5, you can punish all of his strings. I think cyborg beats arrow purely off zoning. The only 7-3's are aqua and lex. He does do decent against most of the cast though.