Sonya is broken. Cassie is busted too, you can have good tools without them being ridiculous, a 9f mid with sweep range that’s neutral on block? that’s wild compared to kotal and frost who have no mids that are 14f or faster. And liu kang would be solid mid tier maybe high tier without his f4 string being a mix.
I think Sonya's damage us way to strong but her mix is far from broke. They are highs and the launcher is unsafe on block. She gets good damage in the corner with ERDC but that is really the only thing with her.
Making scorpions teleport a high would literally destroy the reborn variation. There would be no teleport cancel mindgames as the defender could just d1 him out of any teleport (cancel or not) and have no reason to hold block when he sees scorpion teleport. I have no issues with not letting scorp amplify teleport on the first few block frames like he can now but I assure you making it a high would destroy his most viable variation.
It's only+5on hit as well....
wake up dude, its morning
The teleport has i12 startup frames. It's not reactable prior to impact. And teleport cancel puts him out of d1 range on almost every character in the roster (possibly all, I haven't tested). Not to mention the auto-mixup every time Scorp jumps at you. That's plenty of mind games.
Frost needs A LOT of help. Her buttons are a joke hitbox wise and frame wise. Her krushing blows are really bad too, I think the drill KB is bugged. She’s extremely unsafe for no reason and has a ton of gaps. I could go on all day about her issues
You are not telling the whole story here though... teleport and amp teleport are both full combo punishable on block by every character, so if scorp guesses wrong he is eating 30+ (or breaking away which means he will lose defensive meter and access to teleport cancels for a while). Teleport only combos if amplified so it is not an auto combo if you get hit with a regular tp. If scorpion cancels a teleport (leaving him at neutral frame wise) and he ends up getting punished by a wrong guess/fast move he will now be unable to break away from the combo. And even if you are out of d1 range after tp cancel you could certainly still d3 him out of it if it hit high and there would be no reason to respect it if you can just block low and blow it up anyway.
I agree with you. I don't think it should be a high but only be allowed to amplify on hit. Those who are asking it to be a high aren't thinking rationally for the health of the character
Yes, no amp on block is 100% fair and fine, making tp a high ruins the character
First, you forget that Scorpion has the ability to teleport AWAY in Reborn. Not just in. So even in the case that TP cancel on side switch was useless, the variation would still have tools. Second, if you absolutely must have a mixup on tp, then make the amp’d second hit a mid. But I want to reiterate that a move like that doesn’t NEED an automatic, built-in mixup. It’s perfectly fine as a whiff punish. What other teleports in the game have such good frames and utility that they’re automatically a mixup just by existing? You see any other teleport in the game that forces every single member of the cast to inch forward with block, never throwing projectiles and barely throwing pokes, for fear of a full-combo reaction punish? Ask Raiden players or Kollector players or Kung Lao players if that sounds nice. Even if making it a high would completely remove the mind game (which it wouldn’t), it’s still the single best deterrent, pace control, punish move in the game.
Bro kabal is a beast