General/Other - Smoke XL Robo Smoke Discussion Thread

[Jdizzle31]

anyone noticed how good triborgs walk speed is? Hes going to be good at making people whiff

 

[xKhaoTik]

Is ex phase worth using

Wakeup

 

[knight x1868]

I saw the non EX one beat out Sektor's guided missile set up. The phase is nasty with or without burning meter.

 

[GrimJack]

I feel his pokes are horrendous. The d3 8f and 7f d1 is nice and all but the hitbox are terrible

 

[Scott The Scot]

You can combo a meterless Smoke Bomb from B1 midscreen if you hit B1 meaty.

 

[xKhaoTik]

You can combo a meterless Smoke Bomb from B1 midscreen if you hit B1 meaty.

Yea i was just about to post this. Pretty easy to get after a teleport

 

[dwz_mk9]

I feel his pokes are horrendous. The d3 8f and 7f d1 is nice and all but the hitbox are terrible

I've used d3 and d1 a lot! I think those are pretty damn good pokes. I don't think d4 is all that great though.

 

[Poser Paul]

how does everyone feel about the tarkatan match up?

 

[MrSunshine]

You cant use Smoke towards offensively at all

 

[Bomborge]

As someone said before, b1 combos into smoke bomb as a meaty. It also combos in the corner as well.
b3 has a weird range 1.5 steps from max range (starting range at the start of a match) where it won't combo into smoke bomb on hit.

 

[knight x1868]

I feel his pokes are horrendous. The d3 8f and 7f d1 is nice and all but the hitbox are terrible

All of the Borgs have the same pokes.

 

[Wolverine32]

I've been using his smoke away after riskier but cancelable things, with the occasional smoke through into a baited punish it definitely does help with the larger window for teching throws. For opponents who want to punish with a throw so the input reversal doesn't catch them. But it all depends on how your opponent handles your pressure.

 

[Scott The Scot]

Yea i was just about to post this. Pretty easy to get after a teleport

Yep, and Teleport as an ender is a HKD so it's perfect for set play lol.

 

[Bomborge]

Don't know if this is known, but you can choose which direction to throw the opponent after the air throw.

 

[dwz_mk9]

anyone noticed how good triborgs walk speed is? Hes going to be good at making people whiff

That, along with S4, is going to make it nearly impossible to jump in on him.

 

[ShaolinGunFu]

All of the Borgs have the same pokes.

doesnt sektor have the little jet boost at the end of his though?

 

[Blade4693]

What is his best option for punishing a blocked string? I fought a Johnny online today and I could block just about all of his stuff, but I really didn't know what to do as far punishing goes.

Also, any tips on the f4d12 - run - S4 - Smoke Ball - NJP - Run - S4 - harpoon - ji23 string goes? I can do it in training mode pretty consistently, but have a lot of trouble doing it on an actual opponent for some reason.

 

[XxTheGoblinX]

doesnt sektor have the little jet boost at the end of his though?

yes

 

[dwz_mk9]

What is his best option for punishing a blocked string? I fought a Johnny online today and I could block just about all of his stuff, but I really didn't know what to do as far punishing goes.

Also, any tips on the f4d12 - run - S4 - Smoke Ball - NJP - Run - S4 - harpoon - ji23 string goes? I can do it in training mode pretty consistently, but have a lot of trouble doing it on an actual opponent for some reason.

1 1 1 xx Smoke bomb/Spear is a good punisher since 1 is 8F I believe. It doesn't deal out the best damage but it's consistent. F4 3 xx Ex Teleport into a follow up deals out the best damage and F4 is 10F. And for the combos, it's different when going up against an opponent because you don't have tension of an actual match that you can replicate in training mode. I would just give it time so the muscle memory can sit in. When I first started playing Erron Black it took me at least a week or two to get his combos consistently against real players.

 

[JesterSMX]

I think I'm missing something? Vortex or not he's not a complete character. Sorcerer had a win button and blood god has totems. What does smoke get to warrant no armor move? His phase isn't that great.

 

[knight x1868]

I think I'm missing something? Vortex or not he's not a complete character. Sorcerer had a win button and blood god has totems. What does smoke get to warrant no armor move? His phase isn't that great.

So what would you want?
I don't get it — these character have been out for less than a day.

 

[JesterSMX]

So what would you want?
I don't get it — these character have been out for less than a day.

There's definitely more to be discovered but he has no defense and he doesn't have an op offense to balance it. I would like armor on ex smoke away/towards. You can't delay wakeup with it because you have to fully stand up and it gets beaten. If it's his only get away from me move it should do it's job.

 

[Harlequin969]

So is it me or can you lowpoke under Smoke's f2?

 

[UsedForGlue]

B21 might be the most godlike string ive ever seen.

14 frame start up. Insane reach. Safe. Strings onto them even on whiff so you get in for free especially with EX bomb if they arent ready to armor.

B21 -EX smoke away/toward could also be very useful vs people trying to armor the smoke bomb as it reverses inputs and seems to be safe vs armor if they get the move to come out on the correct side.

Can't B21 be armoured? and even worse, isn't it mid then high?

 

[xKhaoTik]

Can't B21 be armoured? and even worse, isn't it mid then high?

Yup it can be armored, along with almost every other string he has