General/Other - Smoke XL Robo Smoke Discussion Thread

[RiBBz22]

lol, F3's range is like full screen and low profiles a lot of projectiles. I am assuming it can go under all high's and you can cancel it into the rest of the string pretty late. Unfortunately only +1 on hit.

 

[THTB]

Some of my findings for Smoke:

-EX smoke bomb is +8 on block. Much better to use instead of EX spear as listed.
-Off an EX smoke bomb, slight run under, 4, NJP, 4 xx spear, JIP, 3 xx phase/f43 xx air throw
-Ending a meterless combo in 3 xx EX invis is guaranteed

 

[xKhaoTik]

Found a vortex but I'm trying to find a damaging version

 

[GuerillaTactix]

Some of my findings for Smoke:

-EX smoke bomb is +8 on block. Much better to use instead of EX spear as listed.
-Off an EX smoke bomb, slight run under, 4, NJP, 4 xx spear, JIP, 3 xx phase/f43 xx air throw
-Ending a meterless combo in 3 xx EX invis is guaranteed

What's the dammy on this? Seems fun

 

[GuerillaTactix]

lol, F3's range is like full screen and low profiles a lot of projectiles. I am assuming it can go under all high's and you can cancel it into the rest of the string pretty late. Unfortunately only +1 on hit.

RIP Jax f21. Lol!

 

[leoj89]

LK-420 we outchea.
so many damn moves. It's gonna take me forever to learn this guy.

 

[HomeLee1121]

So if u do spear restand and end the combo with 3. Ur left at +29 lol free 50/50 right after lul

 

[xSamuel]

2,1 phase forward with AI set to reversal

 

[shad0ki11er 27]

is anyone else having trouble canceling his B3, D4??

 

[RiBBz22]

It seems that the best way to get midscreen damage is to be unsafe off your 50/50's is by cancelling into EX overhead tele.
B1~Ex Tele, NJP, 4~Spear, JIP~4~Bomb, 4~Tele 36% is what I could come up with.

Yeah I started out doing this off the low and overhead and got the same thing pretty much, I was just ending it in JK air throw and picking a side to throw them on. Dunno why I didn't think to do another standing 4 into something.

 

[xKhaoTik]

I'm so determined to find a damaging vortex lol

But for a regular bnb, highest I've found is 42% for a bar midscreen

 

[xKhaoTik]

is anyone else having trouble canceling his B3, D4??

I don't think you can cancel it.

 

[Harlequin969]

So f21 into smoke away or toward is safe
However b21 has a gap for some reverals. I know sub can punish with ex slide.

 

[xKhaoTik]

34% midscreen one bar vortex. Guaranteed 50/50

 

[Pan1cMode]

34% midscreen one bar vortex. Guaranteed 50/50

Inputs? Safe?

 

[xKhaoTik]

Inputs? Safe?

4 ex tele, njp, 4 spear, JIP 21. 21 is +24 on hit and guarantees a b1 (17f) or b3 (11f)

 

[EMPEROR PRYCE]

For those interested im doing a 5-6 hour stream tomorrow night all of Smoke in the lab. I'll be learning and breaking down combos and tech as well as match up specific stuff.

If you're interested in watching and learning with me, follow me at twitch.TV/thekombatleague

And no, I'm not doing this to get followers. I'm doing this so we as players of smoke can come together and learn. I've ever only streamed like twice.

 

[dwz_mk9]

To me it seems Smoke is a much more defensive character and is more about playing mind games with the opponent. That's my general impression. But Smoke is very good! Can't wait to see all the stuff we find with this character!

 

[Rip Torn]

4 ex tele, njp, 4 spear, JIP 21. 21 is +24 on hit and guarantees a b1 (17f) or b3 (11f)

Cool, but who's going to start a combo with 4?

 

[xKhaoTik]

Cool, but who's going to start a combo with 4?

Punish? It does 7% itself so the combo will scale less

 

[Srryimwhte]

ive been punishing with 111 sb 4 b21 spear jip 21 (mix up) dont know it its worth anything

 

[shad0ki11er 27]

To me it seems Smoke is a much more defensive character and is more about playing mind games with the opponent. That's my general impression. But Smoke is very good! Can't wait to see all the stuff we find with this character!

thats how i see smoke played also. To me he has a good amount of gimmicks he actually needs to use to be played fully well only time will tell how good he is though.

 

[Smarrgasm]

The only scary thing ive noticed so far is he seems pretty meter dependent for most things.

Also the lack of armor is a glaring weakness seeing as the invincible move still keeps you right next to them.

 

[Harlequin969]

What I'm thinking of doing is ending a lot of combos in smoke towards or away and then either going into 111 or block. It's gimicky but can be worth it

 

[Altsa]

4 ex tele, njp, 4 spear, JIP 21. 21 is +24 on hit and guarantees a b1 (17f) or b3 (11f)

You can do ex tele, njp, 4 smokebomb, 4 spear, jip, 21 for a bit more damage.

Also I really like his f4,2 string. Sure it has a gap(tbh everything Smoke has is full of gaps) but is a safe on block 10 frame advancing mid and you can hitconfirm it easily into b2. Along the lines of f4,2 b2,1-spear, jip, 2,1-smokebomb, f4,3 teleport for 26% midscreen meterless damage.