What will Mortal Kombat 11's legacy be if there are no more Kombat Packs/patches?

[scrubjesus111]

It would‘ve been exceptional if they addressed the dozens of lackluster kustom moves. NRS didn’t want to make more work for themselves by changing up a ton of moves, I get that, but that’s more reason why MK11 wouldve blown me away if they had.

Instead kustom moves feel like an afterthought, with almost all the best variations in the game being a remix of the presets that were already allowed in tournament/ranked before Ultimate’s release. Oh well.

 

[Pizza]

Maybe in a few weeks/months we'll be discussing the next game and people will be happy again

 

[Kiss the Missile]

I've seen Crim criticize Sheeva pretty heavily on the podcast. Jacqui and Cet too iirc

 

[fluffybunbunkittens]

I knew I'd see incel shit on this forum

Really reaching there, bucko.

Has NRS done anything about the stomp in the last 6 months? No? Then, has there been a widely circulated clip from the recent variety streamer tournament's MK11 part, where one player learned nothing but just DU with Sheeva, and destroyed people like that, leading to the frustrated tears of one of them?

That became the face of MK11, and boom, 2 weeks later, we finally just happen to get the Sheeva stomp finally nerfed.

 

[Kiss the Missile]

I knew I'd see incel shit on this forum, but incel shit AND wild, unsubstantiated speculation? Well, I'm-

Wait. No. I'm not surprised at all.

Lmao come on now bruv. That wasn't incel shit. He didn't call her a bitch or belittle her at all.
She was a woman.
She was in tournament.
She cried because she didn't know how to stop Stomp.

It was just facts

 

[Pizza]

Kintaro made everyone cry back in MK2, this is a fact

 

[16 Bit]

My favorite thing about the, "NRS doesn't communicate" bullshit argument is that anytime Dizzy or Stephanie answer a question related to gameplay on Twitter, they're immediately given hostility and told they're wrong or lying by the very same people asking the questions, top players included!

There's also a whole cadre of people that actually believe that Stephanie - a QA tester - is solely responsible for everything they don't like about whatever the current NRS game is and use that excuse to dead name her and use pronouns to describe her in ways not consistent with her gender identity.

I'm sure xWildx will hand wave this away as, "Well every community has bad actors" because that's easier than purging your community of abusers.

Fact of the matter is, people wonder why NRS employees don't communicate while blatantly ignoring the fact that one of their most visible employees is a trans woman that doesn't find this space to be a safe environment for her.

I appreciate this post.

It seems to basically go unnoticed I mostly stopped engaging around May of 2019. That is not a coincidence.

 

[Marinjuana]

Patch notes have been put for 4 hours and where's the post or discussion? Bunch of frauds in this community

 

[DixieFlatline78]

Patch notes have been put for 4 hours and where's the post or discussion? Bunch of frauds in this community

Unfortunately theres not a whole lot to talk about with it. I appreciate what it was but it was a pretty small patch that won't shake much up other than Sheeva stomp nerfs.

 

[Marinjuana]

Unfortunately theres not a whole lot to talk about with it. I appreciate what it was but it was a pretty small patch that won't shake much up other than Sheeva stomp nerfs.

Yeah it's not big but Rambo and Shao got buffed too. Idk how they nerfed Fujin yet. You also say that like a Sheeva stomp nerf wasn't the most requested change.

I'm sure this thread with the outdated title will get ten more pages but let's see if the patch notes can get a few comments to talk about changes to character balance

 

[Rude]

Lmao come on now bruv. That wasn't incel shit. He didn't call her a bitch or belittle her at all.
She was a woman.
She was in tournament.
She cried because she didn't know how to stop Stomp.

It was just facts

Many people have complained about Stomp.

And yet he specifically chose the woman gamer and not, say, the Noob Saibot player that lost a Top 8 match exclusively to stomps. Or Tom Brady who has made at least one video about stomp on his channel.

He chose the crying woman. Incel shit.

 

[Rude]

Really reaching there, bucko.

Has NRS done anything about the stomp in the last 6 months? No? Then, has there been a widely circulated clip from the recent variety streamer tournament's MK11 part, where one player learned nothing but just DU with Sheeva, and destroyed people like that, leading to the frustrated tears of one of them?

That became the face of MK11, and boom, 2 weeks later, we finally just happen to get the Sheeva stomp finally nerfed.

Do you know how long it takes to code a frame data change?

Do you know how long it takes to code that change and also ensure that it works across multiple consoles/platforms, etc? Or the time/money it takes to test the change once it's made or whether or not the approval us given to make such a change? All on top of staff working on other projects?

Your theory is unsubstantiated. Correlation does not equal causation.

 

[Ashesfall]

Topic communication by NRS:
So do I get this right here, because of some assholes hiding behind an internet barrier and insulting developers on "social media", the entire community has to sit this communication "strike" out?

Drama Queen mentality as community managers?
I mean, just go dead silence about a game and just use an official account to post information, so no developer is targeted directly, if you can't handle the "wild" internet.

And I only say it like this because capcom and namco showed me how its done way better.
(And WB is so much bigger, it's mind-blowing to me.)

When you know, stuff you like is getting supported, it's way more interesting to keep playing and be excited about the future. Being in the dark doesn't feel good as a passioned fan to anything.
(And real gamers on the NRS side, should know that ... so in a way, they "torture" their fans on purpose ...)
---
Even tho I am really happy for the patch and I will keep playing because of it, I still really hope to see more support for this game.
This "small" patch to me honestly feels now the game is done. Fixed the biggest complained issue and touched the character that is considered the lowest tier by almost every named player.

If I had one wish towards NRS, if the game is done, please let us know ... if not, take my money!

- see you in the next Kombat League

 

[DixieFlatline78]

Yeah it's not big but Rambo and Shao got buffed too. Idk how they nerfed Fujin yet. You also say that like a Sheeva stomp nerf wasn't the most requested change.

I'm sure this thread with the outdated title will get ten more pages but let's see if the patch notes can get a few comments to talk about changes to character balance

I get your point now. People really just bitch about the game. The extent of character discussion is "Uh, hello? My character was punished when I did something I know is unsafe? Buffs please?"

I wish it were different but the NRS community is so negative.

 

[Kiss the Missile]

Many people have complained about Stomp.

And yet he specifically chose the woman gamer and not, say, the Noob Saibot player that lost a Top 8 match exclusively to stomps. Or Tom Brady who has made at least one video about stomp on his channel.

He chose the crying woman. Incel shit.

Because it went viral

 

[Rude]

Because it went viral

People were talking about Stomp long before that clip. It was a big part of thhe discourse around the game.

 

[Kiss the Missile]

People were talking about Stomp long before that clip. It was a big part of thhe discourse around the game.

No doubt, in this community. But the clip of the girl crying was being brought up in other places. I had people who've never even played an NRS game asking me about it.

 

[Rude]

No doubt, in this community. But the clip of the girl crying was being brought up in other places. I had people who've never even played an NRS game asking me about it.

Fair enough. I can concede the point.

 

[BarakaTile]

The stomp nerf I think nobody is contesting, the Health Nerf is the more confusing and unnecessary nerf especially when NRS already seemed to deal with the issue.

What situation were people complaining "man this character has way too much health"?

 

[M2Dave]

What situation were people complaining "man this character has way too much health"?

Obviously, nobody was, but they wanted to ensure that the character is the new Shao Kahn, which she may be, for damage control.

Sheeva has been obliterated, yet Tekken Master is trying to convince people on Twitter that "you will not see any more Cetrion players after today".

At least there are no Joker players saying that he is dead too because of 5% less health... yet. LOL.

 

[Arqwart]

Obviously, nobody was, but they wanted to ensure that the character is the new Shao Kahn, which she may be, for damage control.

Sheeva has been obliterated, yet Tekken Master is trying to convince people on Twitter that "you will not see any more Cetrion players after today".

At least there are no Joker players saying that he is dead too because of 5% less health... yet. LOL.

Oh jeez. Cetrion isnt gunna do 30-50% chip in a round anymore, just 20-40%? AND she dies less than a basic high string faster than before? Dead character.

 

[thlityoursloat]

NRS games used to be fun. MK11 has ruined my interest in NRS games, the community and spectating.
Sorry, I like you all, but this just isn't fun.

 

[BarakaTile]

Obviously, nobody was, but they wanted to ensure that the character is the new Shao Kahn, which she may be, for damage control.

Sheeva has been obliterated, yet Tekken Master is trying to convince people on Twitter that "you will not see any more Cetrion players after today".

At least there are no Joker players saying that he is dead too because of 5% less health... yet. LOL.

I dunno about obliterated or Shao Kahn tier, Sheeva is a situation where we'll have to see over time if it really hurt her.
I also don't see why Robocop has to have more health either, f0xy has long shown what you can do with the character and on top of that they gave him a second buff in this patch.

I think both of those health changes were a "just in case our buffs/nerfs failed" decision from NRS. I hope they roll both changes back for the next patch whenever that may be since both just strike me as unnecessary rather than helpful.

Of course Joker players aren't saying he's dead because unlike Cetrion he can crap out good damage with ease and gains quicker access to his Fatal Blow Cancel. That moron clown is sitting pretty despite having 950 health, right next to Jacqui who's also had 950 health for a while now.

Cetrion on the other hand is more fragile than she already was because high damage and big combos weren't her specialty.
But y'know what? It's the same deal as the other 2 above, She still has all the tools that have kept her a constant presence in tournies for years (dear god it's been years of this wench..) and I really don't think it's enough to completely kill her.

It's too hasty and kneejerk of a call to say Cetrion is dead just like it is with saying Sheeva is dead. Let it play out and we'll see.

 

[M2Dave]

I dunno about obliterated or Shao Kahn tier, Sheeva is a situation where we'll have to see over time if it really hurt her.

What are Sheeva's strengths now that dragon stance and stomp have been drastically normalized?

f0xy has long shown what you can do with the character...

What has he shown? He tried Robocop at WePlay and lost. Are there any other offline or online tournament results that I am unaware of?

 

[verybrownsalmon]

I hope for further patches. Still hoping for hitbox adjustments.
And in my fantasy world it would be perfect, that this Stomp overnerf was a temporary decision. Sheeva was carried by her two moves. Dragon stance is not as good, as it used to be, and stomp is non existent now. She needs something. If they want her to be GOOD character and not “meh, okay, she can win here and there” character.