How does he handle Kabal and Kenshi? I would say Smoke > Cyrax because Smoke's footsies are better, resets hit harder, he can't be effectivly zoned, standing 2 is an AMAZING AA..... The command grab is a guessing game, if you let him have the JIP and he does command grab it is full combo punishable
I have been trying to make this case for a year and been shunned as a downplayer...WTF?!
Ok I hate to do this but enough is enough. What experience do you have playing against cyrax players at the highest level? Multiple people in this thread have lots of it. Personally I've trained with Maxter, j360 and winter wars quite a bit. Also have played gga Han and most recently noobe. Those are all at the highest level right now. Maxter being the best cyrax in the world. As far as smoke experience I've trained with Kt smith and gga waffles and also played xsmokex offline. IMO cyrax is better and more dangerous.
Hey man, you are totally right... none, just speculating here... just trying to learn more about Cyrax... like I said this was all my opionon.... I just happend to find Smoke more threating...
Cyrax has a fucking special called "ANTI AIR" everything you say from this point on should be disregarded.
A special for an AA is not better than an AA that can translate into 100% of your life......................
I mean, you can't really bash him for this. Yes, Cyrax has the amazing AA, but when it comes to normal AA, smoke's is GDLK. i think that's what he was trying to say
Not only him, all US and Canadian Ermac players. As for me i have proved my point about the particular character to the entire community for almost a year now and no one can deny that. Yeah i know, someone will tell, that i havent attended any US tournaments, but i have played the best in EU, placed top 5 in two majors, present MU tips, techs and strategies, weekly high lvl casuals and tournament footage, a MU chart acceptable by the whole community (with some minor disagreements) and exposed Ermac to its fullest. Call me whatever you want but it was i who brought this character to the spot light. Its just sad that i wont be able to attend EVO cause of the price of the tickets and really i was looking forward meeting and hanging around with all of you guys (yes,even you Death). Sorry guys but i cannot afford it, neither me, neither Hidan. Pig we talked about the price numbers and i believe you find it reasonable why i cannot come.
I still handle him up with Cage though lol....
Cyrax can do 37% meterless, and his 34% meterless is hella easy. Also, saying he's not scary without meter is a bit dubious. One D4 from Cyrax and it's terror time. He's in, and good luck dealing with pressure/command grab mix-ups. His anti-air grab is good, his command grab is freaking retarded, his D4 is easily one of the best in the game (has good reach and provides ridiculous advantage), his D3 is good, he can put 3 combos on screen at the same time (2 bombs and a net), and controls spacing better than the vast majority of the characters in the game.
lol are you downplaying?
Can't the same thing be said for most of the "Viable characters" listed though? I mean if Smoke can't win without a secondary than how the hell is say Kitana going to?
Do you disagree with my argument that he has stronger stability, though, in comparison to Kitana?
yea i agree with that. he can hang with the top better than kit can
Why is everyone just now catching on?! :0 This is so rage inducing! GAAAAAAH!!!!
never said win. so far kabal has taken every tournament that has been of recent. i am talking top 8. kitana is extremely viable for top 8... not because of MU's though..
dude, like i said, i was the only person on this planet who didn't believe in this whole reptile hype. never thought he beat kitana, never thought he was top 10, etc