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It's weird like that, also because dashes have a faster startup than rolls, rolls do still tend to have the advantage.Whoops, my mistake then lol. I just never seem to beat the damn thing :/
It's weird like that, also because dashes have a faster startup than rolls, rolls do still tend to have the advantage.Whoops, my mistake then lol. I just never seem to beat the damn thing :/
What a bitch lol. Maybe as reptile players we need to find a better way to do this mu. Its always possible that we have been doing it wrong this whole time, IdkIt's weird like that, also because dashes have a faster startup than rolls, rolls do still tend to have the advantage.
Idk what you're talking about, I don't have too many problems from many Mileena's. Nowadays the only ones that ever really get in my skin are SonicFawks and Pig of the Hut. I think it's a 5-5 MU. You have to play some serious footsies in this Mu and bait stupid shit for punish...yes Mileena's do dumb shit, and often too.What a bitch lol. Maybe as reptile players we need to find a better way to do this mu. Its always possible that we have been doing it wrong this whole time, Idk
I think it might have to do with my terrible punishes on her or something then lol. Not netting enough damage or something, but she's always a struggle for meIdk what you're talking about, I don't have too many problems from many Mileena's. Nowadays the only ones that ever really get in my skin are SonicFawks and Pig of the Hut. I think it's a 5-5 MU. You have to play some serious footsies in this Mu and bait stupid shit for punish...yes Mileena's do dumb shit, and often too.
Pig is also extremely good and picked up Mileena to combat Reptile back when we thought the matchup was so awful.lets not kid ourselves i really disagree on mileena being an even matchup. not to call anyone out but look at showtime vs pig of the hut at the last mlg.. not pretty and tbh same thing would have ha penned to me
Ok a few q's thenPig is also extremely good and picked up Mileena to combat Reptile back when we thought the matchup was so awful.
It isn't a bad matchup at all.
We've debated this over and over, haha. I just can't see how this is even. It's not 7-3 but it has to be in her favor. Reptile can't punish her Tele shenanigans easily. She rolls under our projectiles. Her d4 reach beats ours. She has total air control. And she couldn't give a shit less about wake up pressure save for ex ball. Even when I beat mileena I feel like it is only because the person rolls to much or telekicks into waiting forceballs. I feel like a statue in this match, just setting there.Pig is also extremely good and picked up Mileena to combat Reptile back when we thought the matchup was so awful.
It isn't a bad matchup at all.
1. Hope for d1 to connect into comboOk a few q's then
1. Your punish for her telekick sai?
2. Maneuvering around air sai, do you eblow dash in or walk crouch block in or just jump one then low block or something else?
This is why i play him, these match ups are definately accurate from my experience he is such a beast of a character, especially online with that non punishable dash. offline it's still possible but he's a well balanced and very very quick character.6-4 vs Baraka
5-5 vs Cyber Sub-Zero
4-6 vs Cyrax
5-5 vs Ermac
5-5 vs Freddy Krueger
6-4 vs Jade
5-5 vs Jax
5-5 vs Johnny Cage
4-6 vs Kabal
6-4 vs Kano
5-5 vs Kenshi
6-4 vs Kitana
4-6 vs Kung Lao
5-5 vs Liu Kang
5-5 vs Mileena
6-4 vs Nightwolf
5-5 vs Noob Saibot
6-4 vs Quan Chi
5-5 vs Raiden
5-5 vs Rain
6-4 vs Scorpion
5-5 vs Sektor
6-4 vs Shang Tsung
7-3 vs Sheeva
6-4 vs Sindel
5-5 vs Skarlet
5-5 vs Smoke
4-6 vs Sonya Blade
7-3 vs Stryker
5-5 vs Sub-Zero
If you can't punish the telekicks on block why not make them whiff by putting out d4 and whiff punish them, also as long as Reptile has meter Mileena is afraid to roll or telekick, her ias's aren't that big of an issue, plus NOBODY wants to jump on Mileena in the first place.We've debated this over and over, haha. I just can't see how this is even. It's not 7-3 but it has to be in her favor. Reptile can't punish her Tele shenanigans easily. She rolls under our projectiles. Her d4 reach beats ours. She has total air control. And she couldn't give a shit less about wake up pressure save for ex ball. Even when I beat mileena I feel like it is only because the person rolls to much or telekicks into waiting forceballs. I feel like a statue in this match, just setting there.
Yes b4 beats her pokes. Yay.
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lol wut the d4 makes telekick whiff?If you can't punish the telekicks on block why not make them whiff by putting out d4 and whiff punish them, also as long as Reptile has meter Mileena is afraid to roll or telekick, her ias's aren't that big of an issue, plus NOBODY wants to jump on Mileena in the first place.
Charlie2417 I use one of two options to punish tele sais:
1) Standing 1 ex ffb as soon as the sai is over my head. The timing is strict, but even if you don't hit the combo, you got a knockdown which is good for reptile.
2) If I can't hit standing 1 ffb, I just d4 and make the telekick whiff, and then punish with a full combo.
Yeah you have to time it right but it's waaaaay easier to do than the standing 1 punish. So when I can't get that right I d4.lol wut the d4 makes telekick whiff?
Reptile's hitbox is very low to the ground during d4.wait....how does d4 make telekick wiff?
Yep.oh...so if u time a d4, his hit box is too low for telekick to hit?
Alright idk how to interpret this tbh but I'm going to throw out the frame data so maybe you can help me figure this out. The Execution of telekick is 21 frames grounded, and 30 frames from the air. On whiff it takes 40 frames frames for the move to complete. 16 frames pass before the teleport animation as well. What should her advantage be on whiff?? If I'm reading all of it right she would be -19 if she whiffs a grounded telekick and -10 if she whiffs one from the air, because you should just take the startup and subtract from the duration right?? I honestly don't know.I know Mileena recovers way too fast to do much after a whiffed telekick. I'm pretty sure dash won't even stop her from teleporting a second time.
I have played Pig Of The Hut on multiple occassions, particualrly his Mileena, and I know he has been saying for a looonngg time this Mu isn't as bad as Reptile players were making it out to be and he was the one who convinced me it was 5-5. Idk maybe his opinion has changed it's very possible, but that's just from what I know from playing him as well as talking about the MU.If Reptile vs Mileena is 5-5 not 5.5 or 6/4 to her advantage where do Skarlet and Sonya rank on different levels of bad? 6/4 or 7/3?
If that were the case EVERY top Reptile player will have to play the best Mileena (pig) high possible level. I don't see how it's 5-5 even. Mileena is the anti-zoner here, she controls the air, small hitbox like him, weird punishment required for Reptile etc. This sounds ridiculous like months ago when certain Kung Lao players claimed Kitana is 5-5, by the nature of the match up Kitana controls the air, she limits his mobility, he Teleports with risk, he Dive Kicks with risk, the range of her normals in footsies, her high damage and small hitbox. Get out of here when saying stuff "Oh, Kung Lao should never jump, dive kick, teleport at Kitana" similar to "Oh, Reptile should never jump at Mileena" so it's even 5-5? Then when 16Bit played the Kung Lao players who called it even, 16Bit won the sets and it was a clear 6-4 advantage for Kitana. pig would probably do the same on these Reptile players claiming it was even, 5.5 slight advantage yes I would agree but these days pig is using the armored Kenshi convoy.
What were his arguing points for saying it is a 5-5?I have played Pig Of The Hut on multiple occassions, particualrly his Mileena, and I know he has been saying for a looonngg time this Mu isn't as bad as Reptile players were making it out to be and he was the one who convinced me it was 5-5. Idk maybe his opinion has changed it's very possible, but that's just from what I know from playing him as well as talking about the MU.
Last I talked to him about the MU, he told me the only thing keeping this MU from being even was that Mileena could telekick for free...then the telekick punish was discovered like a week later.What were his arguing points for saying it is a 5-5?
I played MIT and he solidified what id been saying for a year that mileena reptile is 5-5What were his arguing points for saying it is a 5-5?
I read it twice and lost train of thoughtI have played Pig Of The Hut on multiple occassions, particualrly his Mileena, and I know he has been saying for a looonngg time this Mu isn't as bad as Reptile players were making it out to be and he was the one who convinced me it was 5-5. Idk maybe his opinion has changed it's very possible, but that's just from what I know from playing him as well as talking about the MU.
Edit: Also Pig maybe you could help with that frame data question I have.