The Zoning Academy (Mortal Kombat X Edition)

[GAV]

Necromancer is overrated. The zoning is average. Bone Shaper is much better. Not surprisingly, someone is already doing some serious work at CEO with Bone Shaper.

The best Shinnoks I have played used the Impostor variant. Is that the best variation?

 

[Pan1cMode]

The best Shinnoks I have played used the Impostor variant. Is that the best variation?

It depends on what you steal with mimicry.

Bone shaper looks hella legit now though.

 

[M2Dave]

The best Shinnoks I have played used the Impostor variant. Is that the best variation?

In my opinion, Bone Shaper could be the best.

 

[gibster13]

How isn't flame fist Liu Kang mention here(I think )I think his zoning is top 5. His fireballs do 7% and 10.50% with shaolin flame. That is insane. 6% chip and has instant air and low fire ball. This is also with his mental rushdown. I zone soooo many people out with him and I love it. I would also love if @General M2Dave gave this variation a look and review ?

 

[Shark Tank]

I hear wound is putting in work with necro shinnok. Are we going to see some zoning fundamentals in top 8 for MKX? After all these 3 months?

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

How isn't flame fist Liu Kang mention here(I think )I think his zoning is top 5. His fireballs do 7% and 10.50% with shaolin flame. That is insane. 6% chip and has instant air and low fire ball. This is also with his mental rushdown. I zone soooo many people out with him and I love it. I would also love if @General M2Dave gave this variation a look and review ?

yea good point

 

[RM_NINfan101]

As a Necro main, I will say his other two variations are better clearly, but he still is a viable zoner with some dirt including the EX Unblockable OTG that you can do off airborne opponents or on hard knockdowns, so he isn't terrible at all, just likely isn't on the same tier as Bone Shaper, who's projectile zones way better than flick lol

 

[buyacushun]

Are there any good normal focused character's? I was looking at Kano but he seems too bad. I know that crazy offense is favored right now but there has to be characters who have some shining moments with good normals.

 

[RM_NINfan101]

Are there any good normal focused character's? I was looking at Kano but he seems too bad. I know that crazy offense is favored right now but there has to be characters who have some shining moments with good normals.

Shinnok.

 

[gibster13]

Are there any good normal focused character's? I was looking at Kano but he seems too bad. I know that crazy offense is favored right now but there has to be characters who have some shining moments with good normals.

Kano is not bad. Cybernetic is extremely good both his normals and zoning. Give cybernetic a chance I think it is A tier.

 

[GGA Max]

I did a small worksheet for the fundamental things in this game (weighted by how important they are)

Criteria were (highest importance to lowest):
50/50's
Neutral game
Counter range/zoning
Poking
Zoning
Gaps in strings

Normalized results:
Bone Shaper 10
Impostor 9
Necromancer 7.5

Bone Shaper has basically an element for each of the criteria above. It's the most balanced even though necro might be better at zoning, and impostor might be better at counter zoning & the neutral game.

 

[RM_NINfan101]

I did a small worksheet for the fundamental things in this game (weighted by how important they are)

Criteria were (highest importance to lowest):
50/50's
Neutral game
Counter range/zoning
Poking
Zoning
Gaps in strings

Normalized results:
Bone Shaper 10
Impostor 9
Necromancer 7.5

Bone Shaper has basically an element for each of the criteria above. It's the most balanced even though necro might be better at zoning, and impostor might be better at counter zoning.

If anything I definitely think all three are worth learning for separate matchups and your post really only confirms my view Max!

 

[DarksydeDash]

Haha sonic fox bodying people with Pryomancer

 

[RM_NINfan101]

Haha sonic fox bodying people with Pryomancer

If there is anyone who loves mobility and setups it's Sonic, not surprised to see Pyro Tanya from him put in work. That's his kinda character.

 

[gibster13]

Shinnok is so good because all of his variation have purpose for different matchups. Same with Tanya

 

[ShaolinGunFu]

necromancer seems to use a little zoning to give them a reason to run/jump in so that you can stuff them when vulnerable, if you do a bunch in a row theyll get in so you prob gotta just do one/two and leave the ball in their court for a moment to react to their next move. Seems much better close up than bone shaper

 

[Braindead]

necromancer seems to use a little zoning to give them a reason to run/jump in so that you can stuff them when vulnerable, if you do a bunch in a row theyll get in so you prob gotta just do one/two and leave the ball in their court for a moment to react to their next move. Seems much better close up than bone shaper

Neither Impostor nor Necromancer are better than Bone Shaper up close for one simple reason:
F41D2.

That string is everything. EVERYTHING.

 

[usedcarsalesmang]

i agree, boneshaper shinnok has the tools to deal with any matchup.

fast punishes, safe pressure, 50/50,
solid damage, great utility zoning tool,
armored launcher, good d2, solid jump normals. hes everything you could want

 

[Braindead]

i agree, boneshaper shinnok has the tools to deal with any matchup.

fast punishes, safe pressure, 50/50,
solid damage, great utility zoning tool,
armored launcher, good d2, solid jump normals. hes everything you could want

Don't forget amazing pokes.

 

[usedcarsalesmang]

i mean shinnok sucks, sry guys

 

[M2Dave]

How isn't flame fist Liu Kang mention here(I think )I think his zoning is top 5. His fireballs do 7% and 10.50% with shaolin flame. That is insane. 6% chip and has instant air and low fire ball. This is also with his mental rushdown. I zone soooo many people out with him and I love it. I would also love if @General M2Dave gave this variation a look and review ?

The zoning is definitely very good, especially in shaolin flame. But I am not yet certain how the overall package is like. When windmill punches are canceled into any special move in Flame Fist, gaps are created that you can armor through. He has a couple of conspicuous weaknesses too. His jump and jumping normal attacks are horrendous like Kano's while his footsies are not top tier status.

 

[SaltShaker]

Kano is not bad. Cybernetic is extremely good both his normals and zoning. Give cybernetic a chance I think it is A tier.

Lol

 

[Braindead]

i mean shinnok sucks, sry guys

We're so happy about how good our character became we might get him nerfed if we keep talking lmao.

 

[usedcarsalesmang]

We're so happy about how good our character became we might get him nerfed if we keep talking lmao.

lol, serious question- has nrs ever buffed a character then nerfed them later?

 

[Pan1cMode]

lol, serious question- has nrs ever buffed a character then nerfed them later?

They buffed Flash's d2 then nerfed it later.

Flash is still OP as fuck though so ehhhh