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The Zoning Academy (Mortal Kombat X Edition)

gibster13

gibster13

A fan of fans
How isn't flame fist Liu Kang mention here(I think :D)I think his zoning is top 5. His fireballs do 7% and 10.50% with shaolin flame. That is insane. 6% chip and has instant air and low fire ball. This is also with his mental rushdown. I zone soooo many people out with him and I love it. I would also love if @General M2Dave gave this variation a look and review :) ?
 
Shark Tank

Shark Tank

I don't actually play these games
I hear wound is putting in work with necro shinnok. Are we going to see some zoning fundamentals in top 8 for MKX? After all these 3 months?
 
AK L0rdoftheFLY

AK L0rdoftheFLY

I hatelove this game
gibster13 said:
How isn't flame fist Liu Kang mention here(I think :D)I think his zoning is top 5. His fireballs do 7% and 10.50% with shaolin flame. That is insane. 6% chip and has instant air and low fire ball. This is also with his mental rushdown. I zone soooo many people out with him and I love it. I would also love if @General M2Dave gave this variation a look and review :) ?
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yea good point
 
RM_NINfan101

RM_NINfan101

Nine Inch Nails fan from Metro Detroit, Michigan
As a Necro main, I will say his other two variations are better clearly, but he still is a viable zoner with some dirt including the EX Unblockable OTG that you can do off airborne opponents or on hard knockdowns, so he isn't terrible at all, just likely isn't on the same tier as Bone Shaper, who's projectile zones way better than flick lol
 
buyacushun

buyacushun

Normalize grab immunity.
Are there any good normal focused character's? I was looking at Kano but he seems too bad. I know that crazy offense is favored right now but there has to be characters who have some shining moments with good normals.
 
RM_NINfan101

RM_NINfan101

Nine Inch Nails fan from Metro Detroit, Michigan
buyacushun said:
Are there any good normal focused character's? I was looking at Kano but he seems too bad. I know that crazy offense is favored right now but there has to be characters who have some shining moments with good normals.
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Shinnok.
 
gibster13

gibster13

A fan of fans
buyacushun said:
Are there any good normal focused character's? I was looking at Kano but he seems too bad. I know that crazy offense is favored right now but there has to be characters who have some shining moments with good normals.
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Kano is not bad. Cybernetic is extremely good both his normals and zoning. Give cybernetic a chance I think it is A tier.
 
GGA Max

GGA Max

Well-Known Member
I did a small worksheet for the fundamental things in this game (weighted by how important they are)

Criteria were (highest importance to lowest):
50/50's
Neutral game
Counter range/zoning
Poking
Zoning
Gaps in strings

Normalized results:
Bone Shaper 10
Impostor 9
Necromancer 7.5

Bone Shaper has basically an element for each of the criteria above. It's the most balanced even though necro might be better at zoning, and impostor might be better at counter zoning & the neutral game.
 
RM_NINfan101

RM_NINfan101

Nine Inch Nails fan from Metro Detroit, Michigan
GGA Max said:
I did a small worksheet for the fundamental things in this game (weighted by how important they are)

Criteria were (highest importance to lowest):
50/50's
Neutral game
Counter range/zoning
Poking
Zoning
Gaps in strings

Normalized results:
Bone Shaper 10
Impostor 9
Necromancer 7.5

Bone Shaper has basically an element for each of the criteria above. It's the most balanced even though necro might be better at zoning, and impostor might be better at counter zoning.
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If anything I definitely think all three are worth learning for separate matchups and your post really only confirms my view Max!
 
ShaolinGunFu

ShaolinGunFu

Warrior
necromancer seems to use a little zoning to give them a reason to run/jump in so that you can stuff them when vulnerable, if you do a bunch in a row theyll get in so you prob gotta just do one/two and leave the ball in their court for a moment to react to their next move. Seems much better close up than bone shaper
 
Braindead

Braindead

I want Kronika to step on my face
ShaolinGunFu said:
necromancer seems to use a little zoning to give them a reason to run/jump in so that you can stuff them when vulnerable, if you do a bunch in a row theyll get in so you prob gotta just do one/two and leave the ball in their court for a moment to react to their next move. Seems much better close up than bone shaper
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Neither Impostor nor Necromancer are better than Bone Shaper up close for one simple reason:
F41D2.

That string is everything. EVERYTHING.
 
usedcarsalesmang

usedcarsalesmang

Warrior
i agree, boneshaper shinnok has the tools to deal with any matchup.

fast punishes, safe pressure, 50/50,
solid damage, great utility zoning tool,
armored launcher, good d2, solid jump normals. hes everything you could want
 
M2Dave

M2Dave

Zoning Master
gibster13 said:
How isn't flame fist Liu Kang mention here(I think :D)I think his zoning is top 5. His fireballs do 7% and 10.50% with shaolin flame. That is insane. 6% chip and has instant air and low fire ball. This is also with his mental rushdown. I zone soooo many people out with him and I love it. I would also love if @General M2Dave gave this variation a look and review :) ?
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The zoning is definitely very good, especially in shaolin flame. But I am not yet certain how the overall package is like. When windmill punches are canceled into any special move in Flame Fist, gaps are created that you can armor through. He has a couple of conspicuous weaknesses too. His jump and jumping normal attacks are horrendous like Kano's while his footsies are not top tier status.
 
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