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Biggs

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@ded do you have any insights on Reptile infinite's in MKT (N64)? I know that some of them are a lot harder, or near impossible. I was able to do these so far:
  • Vs Kano (LpHp,Hp) I believe that HpHp,Hp works too
  • Vs Jax (LpHp,Hp) His hitbox doesn't seem to match up with that of UMK3
  • Vs Stryker (LpHp,HP) HpHp,Hp might work too
  • Triple Kick Infinite in Corner vs Baraka
Some ones i'm not sure about are:

Sindel. I was able to get a few reps of LpHp,HP vs her but it is hard because the spacing is very specific. I also believe her hitbox has changed too.

Male Ninjas: Seems very hard, but I've gotten some reps. I've had better luck with the LpHp,Hp and LpLp,Hp variations.

Female Ninjas: I don't believe this is possible LOL

Kabal: I believe the infinite vs him should still be possible. His hitbox seems to be the same as UMK3...

On another note of just regular juggles, Sheeva and Johnny Cage's hitboxes are absolutely horrendous.
  • Johnny I was able to do HpHpdLp Fast Ball aaHp Dash (aaHpHp Dash)x4 (LpHp Dash)x2 Uppercut for 72%. I believe that you might be able to get (aaHpHp Dash)x6 but its very hard.
  • Sheeva best I could get was HpHpdLp Fast Ball aaHp Dash (aaHpHp Dash)x3 Uppercut for 55%. You might be able to add in one more aaHpHp dash or maybe some aaLpHp dash but its extremely difficult.
  • Raiden's hitbox seems to be similar to someone like Kabal's
  • Baraka's hitbox seems familiar but I can't quite place it
Also, the other day I was practicing juggles on UMK3 and attempted to do HpHpdLp Fast Ball aaHp (aaHpHp dash)x6 (aaLpHp dash)x2 Uppercut vs Kabal, but I missed the uppercut every time. If I only did one aaLpHp at the end into Uppercut I could get it every time. I also noticed in the Dash Juggling tips video you did not even attempt the last aaLpHp but you said that it was possible. Is this like some player advantage GC thing? Or maybe just a 1f link?
 
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ded

ded

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Hi @Biggs

Yeah, i believe only Sonya was maxed in the video as the scenarios there were for eventual best opportunity. I am not that much into MKT, as this is like a completely different game and the N64 version is even stranger (was always something like a bootleg for me).

All infs should work in some form or another (including the corner triple punch), although it will depend on the frame advantage. I remember for MKT Infinito I had to try some combos in the second round, as they were not working in the first. Ensure you are using 1.1 version tho.

I also remember some TAS Speedrunner was able to get around 40+ hits with Reptile aaHP, Invisibility vs Baraka in N64 MKT. Not sure if it's still an inf, as he might used PAL 1.0 version...was more than 10 years ago :D
 
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ded said:
Hi @Biggs

Yeah, i believe only Sonya was maxed in the video as the scenarios there were for eventual best opportunity. I am not that much into MKT, as this is like a completely different game and the N64 version is even stranger (was always something like a bootleg for me).

All infs should work in some form or another (including the corner triple punch), although it will depend on the frame advantage. I remember for MKT Infinito I had to try some combos in the second round, as they were not working in the first. Ensure you are using 1.1 version tho.

I also remember some TAS Speedrunner was able to get around 40+ hits with Reptile aaHP, Invisibility vs Baraka in N64 MKT. Not sure if it's still an inf, as he might used PAL 1.0 version...was more than 10 years ago :D
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I used v1.2. What is the difference between v1.1 and 1.2?
 
ded

ded

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sorry, i meant 1.2. mostly hitbox issues from what i remember and some graphic bugs.
 
Biggs

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Biggs said:
@ded do you have any insights on Reptile infinite's in MKT (N64)? I know that some of them are a lot harder, or near impossible. I was able to do these so far:
  • Vs Kano (LpHp,Hp) I believe that HpHp,Hp works too
  • Vs Jax (LpHp,Hp) His hitbox doesn't seem to match up with that of UMK3
  • Vs Stryker (LpHp,HP) HpHp,Hp might work too
  • Triple Kick Infinite in Corner vs Baraka
Some ones i'm not sure about are:

Sindel. I was able to get a few reps of LpHp,HP vs her but it is hard because the spacing is very specific. I also believe her hitbox has changed too.

Male Ninjas: Seems very hard, but I've gotten some reps. I've had better luck with the LpHp,Hp and LpLp,Hp variations.

Female Ninjas: I don't believe this is possible LOL

Kabal: I believe the infinite vs him should still be possible. His hitbox seems to be the same as UMK3...

On another note of just regular juggles, Sheeva and Johnny Cage's hitboxes are absolutely horrendous.
  • Johnny I was able to do HpHpdLp Fast Ball aaHp Dash (aaHpHp Dash)x4 (LpHp Dash)x2 Uppercut for 72%. I believe that you might be able to get (aaHpHp Dash)x6 but its very hard.
  • Sheeva best I could get was HpHpdLp Fast Ball aaHp Dash (aaHpHp Dash)x3 Uppercut for 55%. You might be able to add in one more aaHpHp dash or maybe some aaLpHp dash but its extremely difficult.
  • Raiden's hitbox seems to be similar to someone like Kabal's
  • Baraka's hitbox seems familiar but I can't quite place it
Also, the other day I was practicing juggles on UMK3 and attempted to do HpHpdLp Fast Ball aaHp (aaHpHp dash)x6 (aaLpHp dash)x2 Uppercut vs Kabal, but I missed the uppercut every time. If I only did one aaLpHp at the end into Uppercut I could get it every time. I also noticed in the Dash Juggling tips video you did not even attempt the last aaLpHp but you said that it was possible. Is this like some player advantage GC thing? Or maybe just a 1f link?
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I've stumbled upon a glitch. This is something that would always happen to me when I was practicing.


The stage transition while having glitch cancel changes the length of Elbow Dash

While this glitch does render some previous combos impossible, it makes new combos possible too. For example you can now do HPHPdLP Fast Ball HpHp Dash HpHpHp vs Jax with this glitch when it was previously impossible.

I wonder if this is how ChaosControl managed to do some impossible combos before
 
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@tehdrewsus posted a follow up video about the stage transition glitch and he found some interesting things.


He found the following:
  • Reptile must be the character to uppercut and cause the stage transition.
  • The glitch seems to only last until the end of the round (player advantage will switch).
  • Reptiles dash will go a shorter distance after the stage transition. Drew claims that with the glitch it only goes ~CD hex of distance, where by default it goes ~E1 hex of distance across the screen. He used the MAME debugger to find this.
  • He verified my claim that transition glitch does cause the screen to scroll different, and it does happen with other characters.
  • He verified my claim that Reptile must have glitch cancel active.
@Shock @Konqrr @ded @Mgo
 
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very nice! and i hate to be that guy, but i spoke with ChaosControlBG few years ago about the same and i believe he did explore that
 
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ded said:
very nice! and i hate to be that guy, but i spoke with ChaosControlBG few years ago about the same and i believe he did explore that
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No, I figured as much! LOL. I just wish more people were less secretive. A lot of really smart people like You Chaoscontrol and mkholic don't seem to be the most open about the game haha
 
mkholic

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ded said:
very nice! and i hate to be that guy, but i spoke with ChaosControlBG few years ago about the same and i believe he did explore that
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wouldn't be surprised at all since i too discovered the glitch 2 years ago, thanks to that sindel vs kano relaunch video u linked in another thread
 
mkholic

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Biggs said:
No, I figured as much! LOL. I just wish more people were less secretive. A lot of really smart people like You Chaoscontrol and mkholic don't seem to be the most open about the game haha
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was saving it for an upcoming video but oh well
 
ded

ded

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hey, guys! i believe he wanted to keep his stuff in secret, as he was working on a combo video. however, it's been literally years and people slowly started to discover by themselves things he wanted to show (example was one youtube guy with SNES UMK3 videos). it will not be fair if i expose his stuff without his permission, but for the heck out of it, here is one of the craziest combos he sent me:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jQmrSa0XMzZmi_lMZjdHT6PBrDoZnyik/view?usp=sharing

as for all those little exploits, i had an idea to make the UMK3 Strategy Guides into Video Guides since years with @Shock and put those there for each character, but that idea was left behind. as i am not a native English speaker, i was looking for a while for a volunteer announcer for both those and MK History videos, but without success.

edit: one small addition, @Biggs - i think it is not mentioned, but using parts of the condition of that glitch you can also make Reptile's 3 hit kick combo followed with unblockable slide mid-screen as well. hope it helps.
 
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Biggs

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ded said:
hey, guys! i believe he wanted to keep his stuff in secret, as he was working on a combo video. however, it's been literally years and people slowly started to discover by themselves things he wanted to show (example was one youtube guy with SNES UMK3 videos). it will not be fair if i expose his stuff without his permission, but for the heck out of it, here is one of the craziest combos he sent me:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jQmrSa0XMzZmi_lMZjdHT6PBrDoZnyik/view?usp=sharing

as for all those little exploits, i had an idea to make the UMK3 Strategy Guides into Video Guides since years with @Shock and put those there for each character, but that idea was left behind. as i am not a native English speaker, i was looking for a while for a volunteer announcer for both those and MK History videos, but without success.

edit: one small addition, @Biggs - i think it is not mentioned, but using parts of the condition of that glitch you can also make Reptile's 3 hit kick combo followed with unblockable slide mid-screen as well. hope it helps.
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I completely understand you respecting his wishes. THAT COMBO WAS OD AHHHHHHHHH
 
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ded said:
hey, guys! i believe he wanted to keep his stuff in secret, as he was working on a combo video. however, it's been literally years and people slowly started to discover by themselves things he wanted to show (example was one youtube guy with SNES UMK3 videos). it will not be fair if i expose his stuff without his permission, but for the heck out of it, here is one of the craziest combos he sent me:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jQmrSa0XMzZmi_lMZjdHT6PBrDoZnyik/view?usp=sharing

as for all those little exploits, i had an idea to make the UMK3 Strategy Guides into Video Guides since years with @Shock and put those there for each character, but that idea was left behind. as i am not a native English speaker, i was looking for a while for a volunteer announcer for both those and MK History videos, but without success.

edit: one small addition, @Biggs - i think it is not mentioned, but using parts of the condition of that glitch you can also make Reptile's 3 hit kick combo followed with unblockable slide mid-screen as well. hope it helps.
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Still wish we did it
 
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Kalaise

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this makes me wanna play again. where can i download and play this with people again? please point me in the right direction
 
MRIGOTBASS

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Biggs said:
There is a facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/umk3.mkt.online/
There is a discord: https://discord.gg/aCtRFyC
There is also a skype group but it is private

You will find what you are looking for in any of these
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Common Courtesy would be not to advertise your own MK site to direct players off TYM, cringe. But this reptile guide is pure gold and even know i haven had a lot of time to try the new findings I really love the work you are doing for the community.
 
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MRIGOTBASS said:
Common Courtesy would be not to advertise your own MK site to direct players off TYM, cringe.
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I do not know what "your own MK site" means. I do not have any ownership in any of the links I posted. If you are speaking on me posting a discord link (and discord basically killing forums) then I completely understand. However, I do not control what the UMK3 online community does. I only showed him where they all gather at, because it certainly isn't here
 
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MRIGOTBASS

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Biggs said:
I do not know what "your own MK site" means. I do not have any ownership in any of the links I posted. If you are speaking on me posting a discord link (and discord basically killing forums) then I completely understand. However, I do not control what the UMK3 online community does. I only showed him where they all gather at, because it certainly isn't here
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Biggs, yea all thats just extra its just good manners. While i got you on the line its been a good 6 months since we played ya know whats up son hop on xbl and show me this reptile??? Over here knowing all the frames but dont want to play nobody whats up?
 
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