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T-800 Terminator General Discussion Thread

RoninLoganX

RoninLoganX

The Masterless Sword
None of the tournament variations click for me 100%, hopefully there'll be some fun kustom options that will gel with my Rushdown tendencies. Did appreciate the running man move though.
 
Sugarwatermixlegit

Sugarwatermixlegit

Bruce Campbell 4 MK!!!
I just realized no teleport, damn I was excited about that. Still hype though, really interested to see which variation the kommunity gravitates towards first.
 
Darth Mao

Darth Mao

Your Tech is Mine! #buffRaiden
Unlike most base characters in the game, Terminator's skills seem to have synergy to really change his playing style with each variation. But what really pisses me off is this massive reuse of movements from other games or characters.

Please NRS, be as creative as you are when you want to be. Things are getting predictable as repetitive as they are. Just as 16Bit was introducing the first variation, I immediately thought, "Hellboy again? Just missed the Leap...". And BOOM: Leap move on the screen. So many possibilities to end up limiting the character to a mix between Hellboy/Jason/Lobo...
 
Trustful_Whale

Trustful_Whale

Warrior
Darth Mao said:
Unlike most base characters in the game, Terminator's skills seem to have synergy to really change his playing style with each variation. But what really pisses me off is this massive reuse of movements from other games or characters.

Please NRS, be as creative as you are when you want to be. Things are getting predictable as repetitive as they are. Just as 16Bit was introducing the first variation, I immediately thought, "Hellboy again? Just missed the Leap...". And BOOM: Leap move on the screen. So many possibilities to end up limiting the character to a mix between Hellboy/Jason/Lobo...
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So I've been seeing this complaint a bit today and am curious; what would you have him do instead exactly?
If we are talking about reusing animations, why is this bad? Why is saving time to work on things they don't have to make again bad?
 
Ray'sGoodLiquor

Ray'sGoodLiquor

I don't care I'm not a competitive player anymore
Darth Mao said:
Unlike most base characters in the game, Terminator's skills seem to have synergy to really change his playing style with each variation. But what really pisses me off is this massive reuse of movements from other games or characters.

Please NRS, be as creative as you are when you want to be. Things are getting predictable as repetitive as they are. Just as 16Bit was introducing the first variation, I immediately thought, "Hellboy again? Just missed the Leap...". And BOOM: Leap move on the screen. So many possibilities to end up limiting the character to a mix between Hellboy/Jason/Lobo...
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I've been told by better players than myself that he's a meatloaf made with the animations of Jason, Lobo, Warrior Predator, and Demo Sonya.
 
S

skahwt

Mortal
TheJaxLife said:
I could see him being a lot like Jason. Covering himself in armor at the cost of mobility and a big fat cool down, could even see him having some sort of resurrect (though probably not in his tourney variations). At the end of the day, I just hope he is some sort of grappler.
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Wow, you should win a prize.
 
Darth Mao

Darth Mao

Your Tech is Mine! #buffRaiden
Trustful_Whale said:
So I've been seeing this complaint a bit today and am curious; what would you have him do instead exactly?
If we are talking about reusing animations, why is this bad? Why is saving time to work on things they don't have to make again bad?
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Don't get me wrong. Saving time is great, but do these characters really need to be an improved version of each other? Is there nothing unique between them that can be tapped? Does Terminator need a Jason's tele? Need a Hellboy's Leap? Reusing some moves isn't the problem, the problem is to do it massively as it has been done. Gather 4 or 5 past character skills, put on a different outfit and your DLC is ready.

I'm a big Terminator fan and will definitely use him, I really enjoyed the work done. But they could reuse fewer things and make more room for creativity. I already imagine a DLC in MK12 with the same movements with another skin... :coffee:
 
Trustful_Whale

Trustful_Whale

Warrior
Darth Mao said:
Don't get me wrong. Saving time is great, but do these characters really need to be an improved version of each other? Is there nothing unique between them that can be tapped? Does Terminator need a Jason's tele? Need a Hellboy's Leap? Reusing some moves isn't the problem, the problem is to do it massively as it has been done. Gather 4 or 5 past character skills, put on a different outfit and your DLC is ready.

I'm a big Terminator fan and will definitely use him, I really enjoyed the work done. But they could reuse fewer things and make more room for creativity. I already imagine a DLC in MK12 with the same movements with another skin... :coffee:
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The way I see this is certain moves are just worth preserving and it's okay if it's passed on between a few characters. Same reason why Shinnok had Hellsparks or Nightwolf with Moonfall.

I agree Terminator didn't need a teleport.
 
Darth Mao

Darth Mao

Your Tech is Mine! #buffRaiden
Trustful_Whale said:
The way I see this is certain moves are just worth preserving and it's okay if it's passed on between a few characters. Same reason why Shinnok had Hellsparks or Nightwolf with Moonfall.

I agree Terminator didn't need a teleport.
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I agree, but does it always have to be the same movements? It's as if I have chosen the same character in different versions of the same game, like Scorpion or Sub Zero with Teles, Ice Balls and other things. I don't want to play with a revamped Hellboy, Lobo or Jason, I want Terminator.

Let them reuse whatever they want, but not always the same moveset.
 
Marinjuana

Marinjuana

Up rock incoming, ETA 5 minutes
I don't think it's a big deal if they reuse some animation, as long as it looks good. Jacqui's Grease Kick and Johnny's F344/244 kicks are probably the same base animation but both of them look fantastic. Shang Tsung's F3 is literally Bo' Rai Cho's F3 without the cancel but that is a cool move that goes with his kit well.

I think Arnold's 121 looks fine even if it may be an updated Jason B121, but I feel like Nightwolf and Terminator's animations aren't as polished as the rest of the cast or even Shang. I want to play Terminator a little more before I hate on it though.
 
K

Kind cows

Kano main. Still a scrub
Trustful_Whale said:
So I've been seeing this complaint a bit today and am curious; what would you have him do instead exactly?
If we are talking about reusing animations, why is this bad? Why is saving time to work on things they don't have to make again bad?
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Maybe if the dlc was released more timely people would be more open to accepting the reusage of so many animations. The beginning of his fatal blow is literally scorpions. One of his strings is literally barakas stomp into over head. Like if your reusing so much so obviously why are we still waiting 6+ weeks between characters when before you reused LESS shit and the dlc still released faster. I loved Jason I love Terminator I can't wait to play him this starts to put a hint of doubt in my mind that spawn will live up to my expectations. I can only imagine what they plan to reuse for him and it immediately kills the character for me
 
K

Kind cows

Kano main. Still a scrub
Kind cows said:
Maybe if the dlc was released more timely people would be more open to accepting the reusage of so many animations. The beginning of his fatal blow is literally scorpions. One of his strings is literally barakas stomp into over head. Like if your reusing so much so obviously why are we still waiting 6+ weeks between characters when before you reused LESS shit and the dlc still released faster. I loved Jason I love Terminator I can't wait to play him this starts to put a hint of doubt in my mind that spawn will live up to my expectations. I can only imagine what they plan to reuse for him and it immediately kills the character for me
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And his CMD grab animations are so fucking close to bane from ij2 it's kinda sad to think about.
 
Vslayer

Vslayer

Juiced Moose On The Loose
Lead Moderator
Man, ya'll are really gonna pollute this thread with bitching about reused moves? In double posts, no less. Seriously, if you don't like it that's your choice but this isn't the 'official complaint thread'. Get your negativity OUTTA HERE.

Anyways, Max talks about his experience with the character and more info about that endoskeleton move.

 
Trustful_Whale

Trustful_Whale

Warrior
Kind cows said:
Maybe if the dlc was released more timely people would be more open to accepting the reusage of so many animations. The beginning of his fatal blow is literally scorpions. One of his strings is literally barakas stomp into over head. Like if your reusing so much so obviously why are we still waiting 6+ weeks between characters when before you reused LESS shit and the dlc still released faster. I loved Jason I love Terminator I can't wait to play him this starts to put a hint of doubt in my mind that spawn will live up to my expectations. I can only imagine what they plan to reuse for him and it immediately kills the character for me
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These kinds of comments often come from people with no idea of the actual time constraints a game studio has to deal with.

Having similar animations to other characters is such a non-issue, but we're sure to hear droves of it for the next while anyways, and then the passive-aggressive "lol we can't dare love/hate the gam or we yelled at" option selects in both directions.
 
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