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BanTheTesters

“Only the BEST are asked to be Lin Kuei...”
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Also I’m having trouble with jade and nightwolf and noob are a nightmare right now...
 

mrapchem

Noob
I’ll have to give s3 a try or s33 as well. For some reason some of the cast I’m having issues punishing..but I make one mistake with sub and I’m eating 40%..
If you don't mind me asking, what precisely are you having trouble punishing?

I will say that if a blocked move/normal leaves the opponent close - like a Scorpion teleport - to Sub, use 21-IceBall into your combo.

If the blocked move/normal leaves the opponent at some kind of range - like a Sub-Zero's blocked slide - then use S3-IceBall into your combo.
 

mrapchem

Noob
Also I’m having trouble with jade and nightwolf and noob are a nightmare right now...
For Jade: Be patient, use Thin Ice for the Air Axe and Slide KB - or better yet, use a custom Sub-Zero like I do - and work your way in. You do more damage than she does and if she makes an error, you can hurt her, get a life lead and make her come to you.

For Noob: He can be tough, but don't be afraid to pelt him with Air Axes and throw out occasional IceBalls if your Noob likes to use projectiles. Also, you can throw out random S1s from range to make it look like you're about to throw an IceBall. This will bait him into doing a teleport, which you can kill him for.

For Nightwolf: He's tough, but you can make him respect you if you're using Avalanche. The Kreeping Ice after B143 is really nice, plus you can try to keep Nightwolf cornered with the Arctic Trap - it just needs to be set up after a B321 knockdown. At midscreen, hit him with lots of D4s, then immediately back away to provoke a reaction. If he takes the bait, you can hit him with a B14 or overhead as a whiff-punish. Admittedly, I don't have a lot of experience fighting good Nightwolfs, but he isn't unbeatable if you know your stuff and play smart.

I hope this helps out a little bit.
 

JDE

Pick up & kill it & kill it & kill it!
Thanks looks like I’ll also have to look at the string date a bit more cause I feel like im either out of range to punish things or b32 or f24 isn’t enough and b143 isn’t cutting it either

I’ll defiantly keep these in mind
Some things you'll have to do a quick dash & then go into punishment like Kabal's nomad dash or Sonya's leg takedown.
 

Cobainevermind87

Mid-match beer sipper
The string on its own? Didn't notice that.

All his combos do 2.5-3% less now because of the universal JK scaling nerf
That must be it then, since that KB is always preceded by a jump kick. I didn't have time to read through all the notes, just noticed it playing online last night. Kinda unfortunate. 31% midscreen from 12 starter :(
 

mrapchem

Noob
Given the fact that Sub-Zero's U3 was buffed, but his combo damage was nerfed due to JIKs doing less damage, I think it's high-time that Sub players start exploring his custom variations - if you aren't doing so already. Rising Ice now optimizes his damage output more than it already did.
 

Braindead

I want Kronika to step on my face
Given the fact that Sub-Zero's U3 was buffed, but his combo damage was nerfed due to JIKs doing less damage, I think it's high-time that Sub players start exploring his custom variations - if you aren't doing so already. Rising Ice now optimizes his damage output more than it already did.
Lol I'm 100% not gonna waste my time on non-competitive variations.