IMO, yes! I think its a bad matchup. You play him the same way you would Ryu, just with a worse overall ground game. Add in the low health and voila. I had a gut feeling this was gonna be a hard match the moment I read that Akuma's fireball game was nerfed before he was even released.
I think what you're referring to is the +2 -2, frame tape economy the game is built around. There are some deviations and other frame traps but there is a certain flow of give and take in turns. Imo it's not bad nor good just a way to do things. I think it works for SF though.
In terms of character strength - there was a recent thread on twitter started by snake eyes - nearly 100% of the top players who replied think Guile as well as Urien are top 3.
Instead of winning through setplay/vortex he wins through 1 player neutral
This is actually a really fuckin good summary lul
No. but whatever works is good.
Except now he has a 2 bar v-trigger.
except how many times have you seen a Guile use it twice a round
du was a legacy guile and I think he had SOME success with the character. Just a little. Also activating earlier usually means he's got more health when it's over so he's more likely to be able to activate and then get a reversal after since you know previously he couldn't do that without some serious v meter building. That being said there's pluses and minuses but I'd argue a 2 bar trigger offers more versatility than a 3 bar one since you don't get put in a position where you gotta either use a reversal and forfeit your trigger for the round or risk dying to pressure because you're low. But what do I know, I don't even have a twitter.
du didn't even play him in the beginning it was always Nash over Guile until isdd played him at the Milan tourney. Where Daigo said it inspired him to use Guile again, because remeber he even said Guile was meh. Dieminion said he wasn't good and played Fang over him. People thought Guile had dlc syndrome where he wasn't immediately braindead or even an easy character to play on release like the s tier so he was meh.
I'll agree that guile has losing matchups, and he's certainly not top 3, but he's still up there. Probably in a comparable spot to a s1 Karin or necalli.
Characters he both struggles against but sure it's possible they could be in the same tier. S2 Karin's the same, necalli prob is better def still the same garbage he was doing to you s1. The nature of this game favors those character's playstyles not Guile's and until defense is rewarded like everyone can agree it isn't, I will never see Guile being anywhere near the best in the game. I talked to Sajam about using Guile and he says the character is hard to play. Pr Rog was practicing Guile for a secondary to deal with grapplers but recently said he couldn't do it either.
Nah man just come play low tier Alex with me.
