So what is everyone's opinion on Skarlet's bad matchups?
Ninj RedRaptor10 Johnny2d L0rdoftheFLY and anyone else who would like to discuss
First off thanks for including me in the discussion Mosp. Second, I typically stay out of tier list discussions because too often they lead to 2 negative things; 1 is that people ask for buffs rather than finding ways to deal with the game as is. 2, people just talk each other up or flame each other. Mosp, we were both in stream chat for the atlanta stream watching Lord of The Fly play Skarlet against a Freddy and I had said Skarlet struggles against Kung Lao and the guy on the mic said "Maaaan, any one that says Skarlet struggles against kung lao doesn't know what they are talking about, Skarlet blows Kung Lao up, maybe you should learn to play the game"... At which point I thought, well this isn't going to be worth it and just walked away. So this is my point, people blow each other up.
On the other hand, some great conversation has come from actual discussion on match ups. I was struggling against Mileena and thought that it might be a really bad matchup for Skarlet, however, it turns out the problems my Skarlet had against Mileena were the same or similar problems that most characters have against her. This is the great kind of in depth discussion that should happen when we get into these kinds of talks:
http://testyourmight.com/threads/skarlet-vs-mileena.12732/
I really feel like the Skarlet community benefits most by underrating her, then solving certain situations. I don't think she is currently top tier, but we could make her top tier with with two conditions. 1, continued in depth and honest discussion on every matchup, without over rating her and just assuming she should be better than the other character. And 2, evidence of matchups with skarlet against the highest level of competition, with someone playing her who actually mains her with true character devotion. The first condition is where the community can help, but we have to be honest not boastful, and we have to help each other. The second condition will have to wait until
Ninj or
Mosp get in the spotlight (These are the only two that I know of that TRULY MAIN HER at tournaments, I know @LOrdoftheFLY is playing her a lot, but from what I read also playds NW and Kabal still) I have a sick devotion to her as well, but can't get to a tourney until maybe late this summer, that's my long term goal anyway, until then its online for me.
So if we are going to do this right, I say we try to organize our efforts, and breakdown specific characters and matchups. I say we do this as a community, and make a specific thread for dealing with each character. It might be efficient to start here by listing what we feel the bad matchups are, then make a new character topic where we can discuss the mathup in greater detail. Maybe we take a specific bad matchup thread each week for a new character, then discuss. I know Ninj is working on guides for her, but hey, we can help and add our own community breakdowns, and as a community we can get into much greater depth than one man alone.
So I'll add who I know I could use help against and why, if you guys are game we can pick a few and take our time to break each one down in another thread.
Freddy- I had the opportunity to fight against DarkNatas's Freddy, needless to say I learned what it feels like to be on the receiving end of Freddy's offence at a very high level. I also started thinking about this matchup a lot more watching LOTF play against that Freddy on stream a couple weeks ago. Freddy is mobile enough to cause problems for skarlet, and his zoning wins in a fire fight. That coupled with the fact that he can take 1/3 to 1/2 of your life when he touches you makes for a tough matchup for anyone.
Kung Lao- His mobility with teleport and dive kick and roll, make it hard for skarlet to run her offence like normal. Also the spin makes skarlet try to play fake out games which can work, but can easily be reverse baited by him if he knows the matchup.
Smoke- Again mobility. Skarlet can have a hard time against characters that are more mobile, and that take away her mobility.
If you guys are game to start a community collaborative "Specific Character" discussion for Skarlet, we should make a specific thread for each of the characters we feel could be a bad matchup, lets do it one at a time though so we can really take our time and do it right. We can do each character the way we had discussed Milleena, then maybe clean each one up and make and info page.
-let me know what you guys think
RedRaptor10 Ninj SwayNTech L0rdoftheFLY Eddy Wang Mosp (If I've left anyone out that might want to contribute let me know)
