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Match-up Discussion Russia Tair List

Qwark28

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Cause Dizzy totally showed that tier doesn't matter at FF. You know, bodying pigs kenshi and all..

Get the fu outta here with that nonsense already. Tier plays a major roll in MK. Deal with it.

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Didn't say it doesn't play a major role, I did say that fundamentals> tiers

when someone comes within an inch of beating someone on a 7-3 or 8-2 matchup like 16 bit then you know what fundamentals can do because obviously you don't.
 

Prinz

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Guys, this is one player's tier list, not Russia's, although the player that made it is Russia's most accomplished MK competitor at the moment.
 

TotteryManx

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Actually, when starring at the first 8 on the list...they are usually in top 8 with the exception of Sektor.
 

ForeverKing

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Cyrax have great damage, but the game is not determined only damage in combo
A game can be determined by one net, into a 60% unbreakable combo. Meaning that if Cyrax gets one net on you when Cyrax has 3 bars, he can pull off over 60% combo damage even if you have a breaker you can't breaker it. And if you don't have a breaker Cyrax has 100% combos that he can do...
 

BlackBryan

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Didn't say it doesn't play a major role, I did say that fundamentals> tiers

when someone comes within an inch of beating someone on a 7-3 or 8-2 matchup like 16 bit then you know what fundamentals can do because obviously you don't.
Fundamentals> tiers doesn't exist in this topic. Tier lists are comprised without player talent in mind, therefore fundamentals are all on a level playing field. Nobody said overcoming bad matches was impossible, but were not discussing that. We're discussing the characters without the players.

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnd even with the best fundamentals in the world, some matches are unwinnable at the highest level. Like it or not.
 

BlackBryan

B*tch Distributor
Also, i agree with cyrax on this list. Fact of the matter is every character can avoid nets. And since this is, in fact, a tier list, and not a who is winning right now list, his damage shouldn't mean auto top placement.
Just my opinion though.
 

Qwark28

Joker waiting room
Fundamentals> tiers doesn't exist in this topic. Tier lists are comprised without player talent in mind, therefore fundamentals are all on a level playing field. Nobody said overcoming bad matches was impossible, but were not discussing that. We're discussing the characters without the players.

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnd even with the best fundamentals in the world, some matches are unwinnable at the highest level. Like it or not.
I'm talking in general.

no some matches are not unwinnable, hence the matchup not being 10-0

do you even play fighting games lol, judging by your arguements and posts in this thread, stay free.