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Birdarang characters with shitty neutral. Other than the whiff punish with b2 and s2. Against zoners use a lot of mb roll. Robins is real good.
Birdarang characters with shitty neutral. Other than the whiff punish with b2 and s2. Against zoners use a lot of mb roll. Robins is real good.
Because the game is new and people don't know yet. Regardless, blocking birdarang isn't such a bad thing. There's no meaningful mixup or pressure that follows.
I'd believe that if it wasn't pro play. People not labbing stuff like b13 lantern for gl or b21 bird for Robin is annoying when I hear everyone saying lab the Deadshot MU
I don't think it's you. It's just this character. Spacing is extremely important, but I've been getting most of my damage when impatient players overextend or when I backdash and my opponent tries to do a medium ranged, slow string. If you're patient and/or a zoner, you just mop up Robin. Point in case being Combo Breaker. Hayatei made it extremely far on pure match up unfamiliarity. Most of his damage (from what we could see) was from him getting a stray hit and people not knowing how to deal with 212 birdarang. That and mb sword dance.
I think you should just let the SG do his thing she doesn't do that much damage and sooner or later he will try to get in and hang himself up close Robin give SG a hard time never let b12 fly u can punish it 100% of the time with d12 and get a full combos you just need to be patient and make the SG come to you
There's probably hella stuff like that in the game that you would get gimmicked out by. It's early, impossible to know every gimmick. Just because you focus on Robin and know what's up about him, doesn't mean that everyone else will.
I'm not saying that at all. It's just when you go into a tournament I expect the top players to try and suss out some of these gimmicks. Hell if it keeps hitting you in tournament lab it at the casual stations afterwards or something like that. Like it's not like the characters people play are hidden. If you know you have Hayatei in your pool, then lurk the Robin forums and lab the character a bit.
Gimmie goodies betch
Show me how good he is then. I've yet to see anyone win with anything more than early game gimmicks that won't last. I'm dropping the game competitively (for now) for this exact reason though. There is no character in this game for me. The top tiers are boring and the fun mid tiers have too hard a time to deal with top.
This is pretty much what I've been saying bro. I've got over 1000 games in now and I've been doing my practice and research, I don't think I'm missing too much. Against zoners who are relentless or players who are patient and know the match up Robin simply loses. I don't want to underplay what Hayatei did at combo breaker and stuff but watching those matches, he did get away with a whole lot more than he should have. He caught people in some sick whiff punishes and stuff but Robin really doesn't have any real pressure which is desperately needed in a character of his nature if he's not going to have 50/50s outside of trait. The trait can be super useful but it's ruined so easily by someone who is wise to it.
Imo Hayatei's CB experience is very telling of where this character is at. Like I explained in an earlier post, Compbros had no idea about the match up and played it terribly, and still almost managed to win. One reaction to Hayatei's full screen birdarangs with canary cry would've done it. Bio was smart and picked a good zoner and Hayatei was instantly at a loss. That's exactly my issue with the character. From what I've seen, Robin players are getting away with much more than they should. Once people figure out this character, he won't be able to compete with the current top tiers. Simply because it's so hard to open people up.
I've been looking for a way to do this. Glad you found it.
Can you explain how you're using this exactly? Like after which combos. I tried this and I wasn't able to get the birdarang out without being punished by his wake up. It must be pretty tight.
StarterxxDb2mb, b3, J2, F2d3U2
And now for the million dollar question. What happens if the opponent (long) delays wake up? I'm all for setups, but I think it's gonna become less useful when people start learning how to deal with them. Ending in J3 212 birdarang still seems like the best middle ground between damage and setup.
I'll test against both delay wake ups as well as wake up backdash after I get my daughter fed and Ill post back.