RunwayMafia
Shoot them. Shoot them all.
Nice pun.
Nice pun.
I agree with both your statements. Maybe it's just my lack of execution skills, but I find Selina more execution heavy than most characters. She has some weird inputs (2,D2) (B12D3) that I tend to fuck up in the heat of battle...btw, I know this isn't the place for it...but do you use Selina's 2D2 often? I find it immensely useful and catches people off guard because the low comes out second.
Puns...puns everywhere...
She has the fiercest lines..."I'll freeze your HEART!", "You're a beautiful man..." , "Call me!", "Starting to piss me off..."
I do love Frost's lines for sure! Nightwing has some great zingers too.
It doesn't seem impossible to have two number sets, particularly against Power characters. One for Batcave, one for Metropolis Rooftop. Particularly in IGAU where stage factors so heavily, by design even. If not, then perhaps the numbers should reflect the worst possible stage. My worry is charts like this give fuel to folks thinking KF is OP and better than she really is, when literally half the time her numbers can be worse against the Power characters.
Yeah, I think it was 7-3 before the 1.05 patch but it probably is a 6-4 now. We should play the MU next time we're at Manny's. Can you explain why you think it is 6-4? I have already given my thoughts on the MU.
I am sorry that you can't handle another person's take on matchups when they aren't the same as what you believe them to be. Not offering anything constructive or reasons that you have these issues is a waste. I swear that some people get so butt-hurt over the 7-3 MU number lol.
We will play at Manny's. But basically when Raven gets in trait Frost can't do shit. Raven punishes her iceberg with full screen grab
Yeah, I agree that when Raven is in trait it is where KF has issues against her...you just have to be patient and wait for it to expire. You can still walk forward and block the grabs, be ready to d2 teleport attempts, and possibly slide lightning attempts although that option is risky. Outside of trait I feel like Raven takes a lot more risk than KF does because of how hard she punishes SC.
I understand the concerns about the interactables affecting the balance of a match, but I don't factor them into any match-up chart. When I think of a MU chart, I only take into account things like the characters tools against each other, which of those tools shut the opponent's down or limit them, and how risky those tools are to use. I could play the best Superman player, get bodied 10-0 because I am either not as good or have an off day, but my feeling about what the MU is would not change. If I watched a match at a level where both players are adept at the game and I saw some sort of tech/strategy limiting what another character could do, that is the sort of thing I am looking for.
I play Raven as well, and while in trait Frost's options are limited, she can still do something when Raven....does something.....
Yeah, tournament wins really don't mean much to me to be honest. Do you just think the MU is even? What really concerns you the most in the MU?
I think the same thing, but I think the parry is what gives the edge to Frost when it comes down to it.
if only KDZ knew how to zone. . .or how to stuff KF's wake-ups. . .or how to react to her vortex
