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Proposed Nerf Discussion

ClayW

Samourai
Make d1 have no pushback and not combo into breath, and make the gap on b12 breath 9f, then we'll see who actually knows how to play supergirl, and who is just face mashing their pads. (which is all of them btw)

Or make breath only able to be meter burned on hit.
Slow down the lasers and make b123 -6 not -4

IDC, if they can butcher deadshot like that, supergirl can get rekt too. Shes everywhere, no weakness, super strong if you dont know how to play the game, and super annoying to play against even if you do know how to play the game. Doesnt encourage any sort of solid fundamental play despite the fact thats what her design looked to be based on.
I agree with your nerfs but hating on players whatthefuck. I don’t hate on any players or their playstyles. Didn’t hate on pre patch mileena or tarkatan players, I hated the character. To say someone doesn’t have fundamentals because of who they play I can’t respect that, even if they’re one of my favorite to watch.
 

Zionix

AKA Ponkster
I agree with your nerfs but hating on players whatthefuck. I don’t hate on any players or their playstyles. Didn’t hate on pre patch mileena or tarkatan players, I hated the character. To say someone doesn’t have fundamentals because of who they play I can’t respect that, even if they’re one of my favorite to watch.
You are missing the point entirely.

This character rewards the player for mashing being disrespectful. It doesn't matter how fundamentally solid you are, you will get better results just mashing after everything.

She promotes poor gameplay, he isn't hating on the players specifically, just what the character encourages them to do.
 

ClayW

Samourai
You are missing the point entirely.

This character rewards the player for mashing being disrespectful. It doesn't matter how fundamentally solid you are, you will get better results just mashing after everything.

She promotes poor gameplay, he isn't hating on the players specifically, just what the character encourages them to do.
He said we all face mash our pads. SG isn’t the only character that rewards disrespect. Why does starfire poke out of -2, or robin out of -11, or catwoman out of everything? Idk about others, but I block after b123. When playing other SGs I’ve become pretty consistent with punishing normal breath
 

MysTiiK_V

"For Mother Nature"
I think this thread needs to be shut down all it is here for people to complain for needs like first it was Supergirl now Catwoman, vane, Superman, BA, ect. Shut up and play the game
Rude, people are just trying to express their opinions. No need for that
 

South

I'd rather SHOW than TELL ~ Poison Ivy
You are missing the point entirely.

This character rewards the player for mashing being disrespectful. It doesn't matter how fundamentally solid you are, you will get better results just mashing after everything.

She promotes poor gameplay, he isn't hating on the players specifically, just what the character encourages them to do.
Like cheetah promotes random play which literally is looked down up in the community? Or how Superman promotes dumb down footsies and boost the player up for doing 1 string etc etc

He said we all face mash our pads. SG isn’t the only character that rewards disrespect. Why does starfire poke out of -2, or robin out of -11, or catwoman out of everything? Idk about others, but I block after b123. When playing other SGs I’ve become pretty consistent with punishing normal breath
People don't like the truth that's all this community is about is nerfing 1 character because they suck
 

foxof42

Thanksgiving corner game, going ham and stuffing
im guessing you think red hood is top 3, but i highly disagree. My top 3 would be Supergirl, Black Adam, and Catwoman. Adam is just too strong.
Adam is very good, but he doesn't have the solid defensive capabilities of, say, Wonder Woman. His offense *is* his defense. Coming from a Scarecrow main, Adam gets bullied and rushed down hard. He also doesn't build a lot of meter in neutral so he usually doesn't have the resources to pushblock. Again, he's very good, but he's not as well rounded as some other top tiers.
 

Thundergodd

Mortal
Adam is very good, but he doesn't have the solid defensive capabilities of, say, Wonder Woman. His offense *is* his defense. Coming from a Scarecrow main, Adam gets bullied and rushed down hard. He also doesn't build a lot of meter in neutral so he usually doesn't have the resources to pushblock. Again, he's very good, but he's not as well rounded as some other top tiers.
QFT!
 

Zionix

AKA Ponkster
Like cheetah promotes random play which literally is looked down up in the community? Or how Superman promotes dumb down footsies and boost the player up for doing 1 string etc etc



People don't like the truth that's all this community is about is nerfing 1 character because they suck
I cant take anything you say seriously. Play Cheetah and have fun against supergirls. Completely different world.

Plug a cable in as well.
 

South

I'd rather SHOW than TELL ~ Poison Ivy
I cant take anything you say seriously. Play Cheetah and have fun against supergirls. Completely different world.

Plug a cable in as well.
I can't take anything you say seriously lol! Didn't revert just blow you up in another thread? And khaotic? Pce I'm out breh and i don't need a cable I barely play nrs lol You played your self breh but just in case your wondering I got one anyways Goodnight bro stay mad
 

just_2swift

MK1 is the best MK period.
Adam is fine the way he is. He's pretty much his igau form. Without a wake up and and less meterless dmg. I have no issue fighting Adam as I have a pocket IAFBalling cyborg/booyah. Touch the ice breath bane and crow are fine. Y'all need to be careful about what you guys are doing. Robin will end up as the best character in the game. Herd it here first.
 

JDE

Pick up & kill it & kill it & kill it!
- Full trait have less chip
- Extended breath do less hits
- Increase push back on mb breath
- B123 go to -5 or -6 with more recovery

or
- Decrease damage by 5 to 10%
- Reduce trait projectile speed by 2
 
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MysTiiK_V

"For Mother Nature"
Adam is fine the way he is. He's pretty much his igau form. Without a wake up and and less meterless dmg. I have no issue fighting Adam as I have a pocket IAFBalling cyborg/booyah. Touch the ice breath bane and crow are fine. Y'all need to be careful about what you guys are doing. Robin will end up as the best character in the game. Herd it here first.
adam fine???? we're done here
 

Ram

Buluc Chabtan
Adam is fine the way he is. He's pretty much his igau form. Without a wake up and and less meterless dmg. I have no issue fighting Adam as I have a pocket IAFBalling cyborg/booyah. Touch the ice breath bane and crow are fine. Y'all need to be careful about what you guys are doing. Robin will end up as the best character in the game. Herd it here first.
I think Adam is better than he was in Inj1 because of his f12 string, which lets him convert meterlessly off of stray dive kicks and gives him better footsies overall
 

MysTiiK_V

"For Mother Nature"
I think Adam is better than he was in Inj1 because of his f12 string, which lets him convert meterlessly off of stray dive kicks and gives him better footsies overall
that's what I mean, his inj2 version is def better
 

just_2swift

MK1 is the best MK period.
I never said i2 bladam wasn't better from igau I know he's better he's still the same imo although I love igau Adam more iaj1 into dive kick was life.
 

Thundergodd

Mortal
some adjustments are needed
Not really.

I think NRS nerfed him just fine without breaking him (I'm looking at you, Arthur Curry) or making him op (I'm looking at you female Kryptonian).

As @foxof42 said:
Adam is very good, but he doesn't have the solid defensive capabilities of, say, Wonder Woman. His offense *is* his defense. Coming from a Scarecrow main, Adam gets bullied and rushed down hard. He also doesn't build a lot of meter in neutral so he usually doesn't have the resources to pushblock. Again, he's very good, but he's not as well rounded as some other top tiers.

And as

@just_2swift said:

Adam is fine the way he is. He's pretty much his igau form. Without a wake up and and less meterless dmg. I have no issue fighting Adam

IMHO, I think both of them get Adam without being on the Adam-haters bandwagon.
 
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Moms4lif3

Bruh.
Like cheetah promotes random play which literally is looked down up in the community?
How does cheetah promote random gameplay? If you play against fundamentally sound players you will get eaten alive for doing random things with her, believe me. Cheetah is not at all random if you want to play her seriously, actually you need to make really good reads with her to get anything going and have good reactions. Just look at revets gameplay and tell me he just does whatever.
Also Superman is kinda braindead because of f23, but again on higher lvl most people don't really see him as a problem I think.
 

MysTiiK_V

"For Mother Nature"
Not really.

I think NRS nerfed him just fine without breaking him (I'm looking at you, Arthur Curry) or making him op (I'm looking at you female Kryptonian).

As @foxof42 said:
Adam is very good, but he doesn't have the solid defensive capabilities of, say, Wonder Woman. His offense *is* his defense. Coming from a Scarecrow main, Adam gets bullied and rushed down hard. He also doesn't build a lot of meter in neutral so he usually doesn't have the resources to pushblock. Again, he's very good, but he's not as well rounded as some other top tiers.

And as

@just_2swift said:

Adam is fine the way he is. He's pretty much his igau form. Without a wake up and and less meterless dmg. I have no issue fighting Adam

IMHO, I think both of them get Adam without being on the Adam-haters bandwagon.
all i have to say is "Can't Wait For The Nerfs <3")
 

MysTiiK_V

"For Mother Nature"
Br

Bro lol what's so broke about him. What Adam pub stomped you. I have no problem fighting him with my 3 characters I play cyborg danksied and brainiac and there mid tier AF well maybe danksied isn't mid but still. Lol Adam is fine your over reacting.
never said he was broke, he just needs some adjustments. His mb divekick needs to be -4 no matter where it hits and needs to be a lil slower and black magic being a fullscreen 1 bar 40% is kinda ridiculous. Either make it more unsafe or make it slower or if they dont adjust that they should nerf some of the plus frames he has.